Global Boiling

The UK is just as culpable in global warming as the current producers of pollution. The Industrial Revolution pumped huge amounts of poisons into the atmosphere. It wasn’t until 1950s there was a Clean Air Act as a result of the great smog in 1952. This smog damaged my lungs for ever. I believe that everything should be done to ensure essential workers can get to work. The government needs to provide more subsidies for Greater London.

It’s obvious that everything needs to change to live far more sustainably. No more built in breakdown. Everything should be repairable. Of course, the myth of ever more growth would have to stop. The greed of the global corporations is destroying the world as we know it and the little people at the bottom of the heap are the first to suffer.

The true sadness is that half the world are in denial and the other believe the scientific evidence. It’s like Brexit it’s almost a 50/50 divide: I think a lot of good people don’t want to believe in climate change because they are scared and they are hoping against hope that it is all scare mongering. Meantime the worlds richest want to keep making money and don’t care about the consequences. As for me I think that the outcome will be disastrous but for future generations I pray that I am wrong. We won’t stop it because half the world are in denial of it even happening!

milestOne deputies always welcome.

• MerylStreep
1) Yes, to the unknown Siberian permafrost. They are also resurrecting ancient insect and animal life forms from 46,000 yrs ago. Really, they should just let them be extinct. RIP

2) Conglomerates feel no pain and will not until our legislators put laws into action to hold them accountable. Which have a looong way to go given the makeup of our current US Congress, made up of grifters who benefit from these companies. Global warming and climate change deniers aught to be voted out of office. Only then will we get some traction.
Get out and Vote!
USA Gundy

Fleurpepper you asked me so why bother do anything

I choose to do what I personally can, I avoid Chinese made produce wherever it’s possible, I admit to having a laptop, iPad and iPhone which in all probability were made in China.

I buy local produce and less new clothes than previously I would have done,

What are you doing?

Britain have responded well to the threat of Global Warning, if only others had responded as well.
I will not buy anything not produced here and check labels. Decided not to fly if I can help it, I look at other means of travel but not sure it’s possible with the extra time involved and glad I have be3n lucky enough to have done a lot of travel in the past when it didn’t trouble me. Very annoyed at the dumping of clothes abroad which we’ve donated in good faith.

PamelaJ1

Can we totally blame China?
Australia exports its coal and makes tons of money.
We all buy ‘stuff’ from China so we don’t add to the uk’s carbon footprint. I really do try not to but sometimes it’s unavoidable.
My friend bought an MG. She was unaware it was made in China, why not a car made here?
I look at every label and immediately lose any desire for the article if it says it’s made there. My DH nearly had a spasm when I paid quite a lot to buy a British made toaster but he has nearly recovered!
I am getting disillusioned though and wonder if I can be bothered to keep on being the rubbish monitor.

Good post Pamela.

GrannyGravy- so why bother do anything???

Urmstongran
If you follow that thought through that ULETZ won’t affect the wealthy/ better off, eventually it will.
The wealthy, better off are supported by the people who can’t afford the tax.
Without that support they are in a worse position.

If anyone gets a chance to watch Love a Latino, please do.
It’s a far fetched story of how all the Mexican workers in California are spirited up into space and how all the wealthy families who employ them haven’t the least idea of how to cope.

PamelaJ1

Can we totally blame China?
Australia exports its coal and makes tons of money.
We all buy ‘stuff’ from China so we don’t add to the uk’s carbon footprint. I really do try not to but sometimes it’s unavoidable.
My friend bought an MG. She was unaware it was made in China, why not a car made here?
I look at every label and immediately lose any desire for the article if it says it’s made there. My DH nearly had a spasm when I paid quite a lot to buy a British made toaster but he has nearly recovered!
I am getting disillusioned though and wonder if I can be bothered to keep on being the rubbish monitor.

makeitbritish.co.uk/uk-directory/

Your toaster should be built to last, though, Pamela, and repairable, rather than just outlasting the warranty and ending up at the tip.

PamelaJ1

Can we totally blame China?
Australia exports its coal and makes tons of money.
We all buy ‘stuff’ from China so we don’t add to the uk’s carbon footprint. I really do try not to but sometimes it’s unavoidable.
My friend bought an MG. She was unaware it was made in China, why not a car made here?
I look at every label and immediately lose any desire for the article if it says it’s made there. My DH nearly had a spasm when I paid quite a lot to buy a British made toaster but he has nearly recovered!
I am getting disillusioned though and wonder if I can be bothered to keep on being the rubbish monitor.

I will be your deputy monitor. Do we need a badge? (made in UK)

Still caused by climate change and the jet stream

I agree with GrannyGravy and others who have said we’re doing what we can, but our less than 1% of the world’s global emissions are not going to alter outcomes. We all know who the culprits are and we all know that they are not doing much about it. Until they do, nothing we do will make a difference!

If the powers that be want us to drive electric cars they will have to make sure we can charge them out of London. We don't all live in the Capital!

Can we totally blame China?
Australia exports its coal and makes tons of money.
We all buy ‘stuff’ from China so we don’t add to the uk’s carbon footprint. I really do try not to but sometimes it’s unavoidable.
My friend bought an MG. She was unaware it was made in China, why not a car made here?
I look at every label and immediately lose any desire for the article if it says it’s made there. My DH nearly had a spasm when I paid quite a lot to buy a British made toaster but he has nearly recovered!
I am getting disillusioned though and wonder if I can be bothered to keep on being the rubbish monitor.

MerylStreep

How many times does it have to be said.
It’s the speed at which the earth is heating up that is the problem
But carry on thinking that but don’t be surprised when some very nasty viruses are are released from the permafrost now melting in Siberia.

Yes.

My point still stands what can the the U.K. do about it?

We recycle everything that’s possible to be recycled, we have solar panels, we have a rain water tank sunk under the lawn capable of holding thirty thousand litres, which can be used for flushing toilets and watering garden (with the watering if the garden a fair proportion goes back into the tank)

My car has an eco engine, DH’s is 16 years old, we walk everywhere locally.

I have no idea how as an individual citizen I can do anything more.

Nothing will seriously happen until the warming affects the conglomerates that are causing it.
As it stands they aren’t affected at all. But one day it most certainly will.

We produce a tiny amount of carbon footprint. Developing countries (India, China) want what we did in our Industrial Revolution. It’s their turn now is how they must see it. Trouble is, their emissions dwarf what we produced. Their land mass and populations are huge.

I don’t know the answer but I agree, ULEZ won’t affect the well off in this country. Just the care workers, the supermarket workers etc.

Before long we will look around and the UK will look like the ‘Hunger Games’ have arrived. Or ‘Rollerball’ with James Caan back in the day. Scary stuff but I honestly believe this is what’s coming down the track. More than Haves and Have Nots. The 1% Elites will take charge, flaunt their wealth (private jets, tycoon sized super yachts anyone? no EasyJet for them!) as the rules don’t apply to them. Wealth insulates them from the realities the little people (us, our grandchildren) are facing.

How many times does it have to be said.
It’s the speed at which the earth is heating up that is the problem
But carry on thinking that but don’t be surprised when some very nasty viruses are are released from the permafrost now melting in Siberia.

Fleurpepper

And what is your joined up thinking to solve this?

Basically, because China and other countries cause most of it = we do nothing at all, and wait for our grandchildren's world to boil over.

How do you think that the U.K. can influence the main polluters Fleurpepper ? You have repeatedly posted that the U.K. is diminished on the world stage.

According to Google the U.K. is accountable for less than 1% of global CO2 emissions.

And what is your joined up thinking to solve this?

Basically, because China and other countries cause most of it = we do nothing at all, and wait for our grandchildren's world to boil over.

Absolutely NOBODY is actually looking at the future. If BRITAIN did not exist then there would be NO CHANGE to CO'2 Levels. BRITAIN hardly contributes anything. The Third World DOES. It produces most of it. REALITY is that if things are unchanged in the next 25 years the World Population will have FALLEN by one Seventh that is ONE BILLION. China's one Child Policy has meant an aged population and LESS Chinese. Russia and Europe have the same issue. BUT NOBODY is taking that into consideration. Time for joined up thinking and not knee jerk reastions.

Those of us who are serious about trying to prevent global warming continuing are doing what we can, by recycling, changing utility companies to those who are using solar and wind energy, have stopped driving a car and look very carefully at how far our food has travelled from wherever it was produced to the shop where we buy and how the food was produced.

We are also voting for politicians or parties who are trying to change things in the right direction.

And trying to influence friends and neighbours who find it "too difficult" to sort their rubbish properly. It is not reallly hard to work out what goes into which side of the three bins provided. It is uphill work, but then changing attitudes always is.

I bought a pair of new sandals last summer, apart from them, all my shoes, boots and clothes are from charity shops. Apart from that we have only bought things like new brake shoes and chains for our bikes, so our conscience is fairly clear.

In order to save the planet, we need to change our lifestyle quite drastically and take it account what doing so will do to the world's economic and financial systems!

Very few people are prepared to have their habits. Do you know any?
The people who took 6 holidays a year are still taking 6 holidays a year

This is absolutely THE most important issue confronting the world. Much of the south is already uninhabitable for humans, there is already pressure on places like the UK which will only increase as people flee from heat and poverty.
We need a United Nations Global Warming Organistion so that ALL nations can co-operate to try to cope with the terrible situations which are already arising from global boiling.

maddyone

ULEZ isn’t an inconvenience to richer people, just to the poorer people who can’t afford to buy a newer car.

Hear, hear.
Livelihoods can depend on being able to drive in a ULEZ - and what about care workers etc whose incomes are not likely to stretch to a ULEZ compliant vehicle- even second hand.
Exceptions must be made - why is nobody agitating on their behalf?