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Wrongly convicted prisoners pay board and lodging on release!

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ixion Thu 27-Jul-23 18:59:45

Mr. Malkinson, freed yesterday after serving 17 years of wrongful imprisonment for a rape he did not commit, indicates that the compensation he may receive could include a deduction for board and lodging.
Yes, honestly.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801

Nanatoone Thu 27-Jul-23 19:06:44

The poor man!

Riverwalk Thu 27-Jul-23 19:07:12

Poor man - what a terrible miscarriage of justice.

The issue about board and lodging deductions has been brought up in the past in previous cases - absolutely crazy and a real insult.

varian Thu 27-Jul-23 19:10:06

This is a shocking miscarriage of justice, made even worse because he served many more years in prison because he refused to confess to a crime he did not commit.

He must be due an enormous payout.

crazyH Thu 27-Jul-23 19:11:38

What !!!!

ixion Thu 27-Jul-23 19:13:11

This from the above mentioned article-

"Mr Malkinson's compensation also depends on whether the justice secretary decides "a new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that he did not commit the offence".
The maximum payment in cases where someone has been in jail for more than 10 years is £1m."

varian Thu 27-Jul-23 19:15:26

That is nowhere near enough for seventeen years of this man's life.

westendgirl Thu 27-Jul-23 19:19:46

This is shameful .When I heard I couldn't believe it, but yes this appalling treatment is true.
Look how long it took to sort out the compensation for those running post offices.
It is not on at all.

ixion Thu 27-Jul-23 19:31:18

🤔
The Court of Appeal freed this gentleman, deeming him wrongly convicted.

Why, then is the Justice Secretary subsequently involved in deciding if a 'new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that he did not commit the offence'?

Surely the job of the judiciary? Which they have done ...

Where's GSM when you need her? 😉📢

growstuff Thu 27-Jul-23 19:33:52

I thought DNA was found on the victim's T shirt and somebody else has been arrested. Surely that's proof enough!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 19:35:23

Here I am with no useful comment to make I’m afraid.

Casdon Thu 27-Jul-23 19:39:10

He was interviewed on Jeremy Vine at lunchtime today, it’s really worth a listen because the evidence was there right from the beginning that he wasn’t the perpetrator, he was wrongly identified by the victim in an id parade, and that was all the evidence they had, lots of other factors were disregarded. Somebody else has been arrested based on the DNA evidence, but they couldn’t discuss that as it’s a live case.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 27-Jul-23 20:03:26

The lunchtime news on Radio 4 had an interview with a man who was released in 1998 after having been imprisoned wrongly, and says he is still having bouts of PTSD. No compensation can give these men back the time they have lost, and to deduct a 'board and lodging' payment from any compensation they may get is cruel and totally unreasonable. As was pointed out, the guilty don't have to pay for their accommodation in prison, just the not guilty. The man interviewed said that he had earned £14 a week working in the prison laundry, but would have been paid £400 a week for a similar job outside. The difference could have gone a long way to paying for his board and lodging.

What has happened to this country?

Oldbat1 Thu 27-Jul-23 20:33:32

If he gets the million compensation then i believe he would have to pay 250000 for his board and lodging whilst in prison. Unbelievable! and yet “we” paid for BJ legal costs for a confirmed liar who hasnt any morals and who milked the system. Something is very very wrong.

Jackiest Thu 27-Jul-23 20:38:39

They intend making it easier to get a conviction to raise the conviction rate. Yes the conviction rate for rape is low but you still have to make sure the person is actually guilty.

foxie48 Thu 27-Jul-23 20:43:58

I have no words! OH mentioned over supper tonight that he could be charged for his board and lodgings. We live in a truly mad world!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 20:53:13

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02131/SN02131.pdf

Iam64 Thu 27-Jul-23 21:10:03

I heard Andrew Malkinson yesterday and today on the JVine show. What an impressive individual. Articulate and clear in explaining his terrible experience.
He’s been awarded two degrees during his time in prison. How on earth can any amount of money or apology compensate him

Oreo Thu 27-Jul-23 21:31:09

Wheniwasyourage

The lunchtime news on Radio 4 had an interview with a man who was released in 1998 after having been imprisoned wrongly, and says he is still having bouts of PTSD. No compensation can give these men back the time they have lost, and to deduct a 'board and lodging' payment from any compensation they may get is cruel and totally unreasonable. As was pointed out, the guilty don't have to pay for their accommodation in prison, just the not guilty. The man interviewed said that he had earned £14 a week working in the prison laundry, but would have been paid £400 a week for a similar job outside. The difference could have gone a long way to paying for his board and lodging.

What has happened to this country?

I don’t think anything has happened in this country?
Miscarriages of justice have always happened both here and in other countries.
Less so since good DNA techniques am guessing tho.
I really feel for anyone locked up for a crime they didn’t commit and hope he gets a good compensation pay out.

bridie54 Thu 27-Jul-23 21:52:26

I heard the morning Radio 4 interview and was similarly moved and shocked by this story. Little wonder the man is thinking he will go to live in Holland.
What needs to happen now is that the people responsible for ignoring/losing/fabricating evidence are charged for those crimes.

Foxygloves Thu 27-Jul-23 22:48:15

You could not make it up
Disgusted angry

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 22:51:12

The link I posted shows how compensation is calculated, taking into account living costs you would otherwise have paid.

Foxygloves Thu 27-Jul-23 22:59:13

Does it adequately recompense him though for loss of earnings, , pension contributions, ability to have got a mortgage, thereby ensuring somewhere to live, mental distress, emotional trauma and even physical suffering as prisons are hardly the healthiest of environments?
17 years is a long time out of a persons life.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 23:00:00

Yes, I just heard that on the news.

No amount of money will compensate for his 17 lost years, 10 of those years for refusing to admit to a crime he did not commit.

There was DNA evidence at the scene from another person, which should have cleared him but was dismissed at an appeal in 2009.

The case is another shocking miscarriage of justice and to even suggest that he owes the Prison Service money for his board and lodging is an absolute insult.

In the meantime, the real perpetrator has been free to walk amongst us and to commit another crime as his DNA was on the NDNAD.

maddyone Thu 27-Jul-23 23:25:45

That is simply terrible.