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Wrongly convicted prisoners pay board and lodging on release!

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ixion Thu 27-Jul-23 18:59:45

Mr. Malkinson, freed yesterday after serving 17 years of wrongful imprisonment for a rape he did not commit, indicates that the compensation he may receive could include a deduction for board and lodging.
Yes, honestly.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Jul-23 12:45:03

Whitewavemark2

He was imprisoned for 7 years initially, but because he kept protesting his innocence - they kept lengthening his sentence 😮.

The reason he was kept in prison was because the police failed to disclose evidence that they had, which almost certainly means he would not have been imprisoned.

Absolutely scandalous.

The question really is - was the police action criminal?

His defence barrister perhaps failed too because he or she should have demanded to see the evidence which could have cleared him.

If the police or prosecution refused to release that evidence or denied knowledge of it then whoever did so can be sued.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 28-Jul-23 12:43:20

The court deciding that a conviction was unsafe is not the same as saying the convicted person is innocent.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jul-23 12:13:18

The other outrageous thing I have discovered is that it used to be the case that once the court of appeal accepted your innocence, then compensation was automatically granted, but this wretched government stopped that and now insists that you have to “prove” your innocence before compensation is paid.

So Malkinson still has hurdles to jump.

Disgusting

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jul-23 12:04:10

He was imprisoned for 7 years initially, but because he kept protesting his innocence - they kept lengthening his sentence 😮.

The reason he was kept in prison was because the police failed to disclose evidence that they had, which almost certainly means he would not have been imprisoned.

Absolutely scandalous.

The question really is - was the police action criminal?

Athrawes Fri 28-Jul-23 11:14:35

Having to pay for 'board and lodging' after all he has gone through is a kick in the teeth

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jul-23 11:05:19

If he had the wherewithal could he sue for wrongful arrest and imprisonment?

That should help I would have thought.

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Jul-23 10:39:53

ParlorGames

I was also wondering, how has his time spent in prison affected his NI contributions and how would this impact on his State Pension when he reaches the age to claim it? I realise this is a bit random but he surely won't have been granted NI credit would he?

Interesting point, ParlorGames

Iam64 Fri 28-Jul-23 09:16:58

MayBee70

NotSpaghetti

timetogo and sharon

I think this comment is irrelevant.

Any excuse to do a bit of migrant bashing unfortunately….sad#seems the government plan to blame migrants for everything is working….

Exactly so. This thread is about injustice. Posters dragging asylum seekers into it lack a sense of irony, or the ability to see the injustice so many seeking refuge have suffered

FannyCornforth Fri 28-Jul-23 08:56:18

lemsip likes to dictate who posts what, where and when

Greta Fri 28-Jul-23 08:50:08

"Nothing to do with thread! start a new one"
Sounds a bit sour, lemsip.
I just drew parallels. When it comes to compensate people we seem to look for ways to delay. Perhaps this poor man will be compensated quickly.

MayBee70 Fri 28-Jul-23 08:31:06

NotSpaghetti

timetogo and sharon

I think this comment is irrelevant.

Any excuse to do a bit of migrant bashing unfortunately….sad#seems the government plan to blame migrants for everything is working….

ParlorGames Fri 28-Jul-23 08:30:38

I was also wondering, how has his time spent in prison affected his NI contributions and how would this impact on his State Pension when he reaches the age to claim it? I realise this is a bit random but he surely won't have been granted NI credit would he?

lemsip Fri 28-Jul-23 08:23:14

Greta

Just heard that there is a delay in awarding the infected blood scandal compensations. Rishi Sunak has defended this delay. The post office case has been mentioned. We drag our feet and there is no excuse because " it has always happened and is happening in other countries". It's shameful and cruel.

nothing to do with this thread! start a new one.

pascal30 Fri 28-Jul-23 08:17:03

Appalling miscarriage of justice. I really admire him for refusing to admit guilt even if it meant having to spend another 10 years in gaol. He has integrity and courage and I hope he has a wonderful life from now on..

Greta Fri 28-Jul-23 08:16:24

Just heard that there is a delay in awarding the infected blood scandal compensations. Rishi Sunak has defended this delay. The post office case has been mentioned. We drag our feet and there is no excuse because " it has always happened and is happening in other countries". It's shameful and cruel.

silverlining48 Fri 28-Jul-23 07:58:00

I would be surprised if bed and board were deducted, particularly in cases like this.

DiamondLily Fri 28-Jul-23 07:38:45

Poor man. This just seems to add insult to injury. He should be compensated a large amount, charged nothing for his imprisonment, and an enquiry into that whole investigation and conviction needs to happen.

BlueBelle Fri 28-Jul-23 07:11:22

Horrible comment from those two posters timetogo and Sharon You have no idea what happens in peoples lives

Terrible terrible miscarriage of justice nothing can ever make up for losing 17 years and he needs a very very large compensation which won’t touch the sides of all that time
Nothing can help he’s lost a very very big part of his life which he can never ever get back Poor poor man (and his family)

NotSpaghetti Fri 28-Jul-23 06:15:41

timetogo and sharon

I think this comment is irrelevant.

sharon103 Fri 28-Jul-23 00:38:13

timetogo2016

And yet we house/keep asylum seekers for nothing ?.
This country has gone totally bonkers.

Well said.

timetogo2016 Fri 28-Jul-23 00:01:35

And yet we house/keep asylum seekers for nothing ?.
This country has gone totally bonkers.

Doodledog Thu 27-Jul-23 23:47:49

I remember hearing about the board and lodgings charges when some of the wrongly imprisoned IRA men were released. It really adds insult to injury, doesn't it?

maddyone Thu 27-Jul-23 23:25:45

That is simply terrible.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 23:00:00

Yes, I just heard that on the news.

No amount of money will compensate for his 17 lost years, 10 of those years for refusing to admit to a crime he did not commit.

There was DNA evidence at the scene from another person, which should have cleared him but was dismissed at an appeal in 2009.

The case is another shocking miscarriage of justice and to even suggest that he owes the Prison Service money for his board and lodging is an absolute insult.

In the meantime, the real perpetrator has been free to walk amongst us and to commit another crime as his DNA was on the NDNAD.

Foxygloves Thu 27-Jul-23 22:59:13

Does it adequately recompense him though for loss of earnings, , pension contributions, ability to have got a mortgage, thereby ensuring somewhere to live, mental distress, emotional trauma and even physical suffering as prisons are hardly the healthiest of environments?
17 years is a long time out of a persons life.