Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

Germanshepherdsmum

Well I certainly wouldn’t say I was ‘alright’. Never. I have respect for the English language.

It didn’t sound like you, or like English either! 🤣🤣🤣

Foxygloves

^So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange^

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

No, I can't find it anywhere.
🤔

Well I certainly wouldn’t say I was ‘alright’. Never. I have respect for the English language.

Foxygloves

^So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange^

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

Show off!! Same words, expressed better.

Or more gooder as our GC would say.

Sadly 1000s of expats work for them, many from UK, and on vast salaries. Despicable- glad we agree
As an ex-pat yourself living in Switzerland I dare say you have come across many of them ?

Fleurpepper So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright Jack' - very strange.

Nobody has said anything remotely akin to that.

We've all given opinions, told observations, not all gloomy.

You may be gloomy as you like about Brexit, most have moved along.

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

Fleurpepper

MerylStreep

Shall we shine a light at that esteemed Swiss company, Nestle
Yes ? They’ve come up with some corkers to save money ( or fiddle) unfortunately they killed people along the way.

utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/

Hurrah, and for once, we agree. Nestlé's business aims and tactics are disgusting, and aimed mainly at the poorest in the third world. Most of the people I know agree, and would not own shares or work there. Sadly 1000s of expats work for them, many from UK, and on vast salaries. Despicable- glad we agree. What is has to do with this thread however, I have NO idea.

From Farming Business today- they are very concerned. Because they have to abide by all EU rules and all their exported foods to EU are thoroughly checked- but they suffer unfair competition from unchecked food coming in from EU- and now also from Indonesia and Australia.

Concerns over food security and exposure to disease

With the government missing its most recent legislative timeline, NFU Scotland president Martin Kennedy has called on the Cabinet Office to make a formal announcement on the delay and provide a fresh timescale for introducing border checks.

“The Scottish food and farming sector is yet again angered and appalled at a decision that seriously disregards the interests of our home food producers in favour of a cheap food policy that encourages asymmetric trade.”

While the government was due to roll out a new Border target operating model (TOM) on 31st October, followed by physical import checks starting in January 2024 and a full regime in place by October 2024, NFU Scotland was extremely disappointed to learn that ongoing delays are set to continue.

Mr Kennedy also highlighted that the government’s “lax approach” to border controls increases the risk of farmers and crofters being exposed to devastating animal and plant diseases such as African Swine Fever.

“The longer there is no effective system in place, the greater the distortion of the market for UK producers – with importers facing less bureaucracy and cost than those looking to export produce from the UK to EU – and the longer our borders are left open to the potential introduction of plant and animal diseases.

“We understand that the UK Government will shortly set out the new timetable for the import regime, to finally deliver a level playing field for UK farming, food and drink sectors. Regrettably, there will be little confidence amongst industry that the timetable will be adhered to,” Mr Kennedy concluded.

British Veterinary Association president Malcolm Morley also expressed frustration over the government delaying the introduction of crucial border checks on EU food imports, adding the move is putting the UK’s biosecurity at serious risk of imported diseases.

“The British Veterinary Association urges the Government to urgently press ahead with introducing the checks or risk the safety and security of our agricultural industry, food security and UK public health.”

You might have known it's the British who work at Nestlé who are at fault MerylStreep

You couldn't make it up
😂😂😂

MaizieD

Gnet posters are so relentlessly middle bl**dy class...

Well, some of you are!!

How dare you say that I have ‘NO idea about struggling families’. fp? Do you think the person buying one chop or two slices of bacon is rich?
Have I said on this thread that I’m all right Jack? I live in an area where there is considerable wealth and great poverty. How dare you, from the comfort of your big house in Switzerland, say I have NO idea of the situation that people who live in this country face? How dare you presume to know better than I what is happening in the country I live in? Just how dare you?

GrannyGravy13

I have empathy and understanding it’s not exclusive to those who voted remain.

I also have a DH still involved with an international charity organisation.

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright Jack' - very strange.

I have empathy and understanding it’s not exclusive to those who voted remain.

I also have a DH still involved with an international charity organisation.

MaizieD Oh, FGS. Do ignore the government's figures. Nearly 50% of the food 'on the plate' in the UK is imported. We must inevitably buy imported foods in some form or another.

Imports DO include much of what we all eat, not at meat related. Rice, flours, corn products (flour, starch, canned, tortillas), quinoa, legumes, pulses, some sugar, some salts, some vinegars, mustards, fruit, veg.

And I suppose some eat Nestle products, coca-cola, pepsico, mars, Coffees/teas from who knows where. Olive oil, nuts, avos.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

Gnet posters are so relentlessly middle bl**dy class...

Is that a crime? (asking for a friend)

No, I am- all in my family are (and some a bit more on top) and all of our friends.

It does not stop us understanding the issues faced by those who are not, and see that they are the most likely victims or poor quality foods - and empathise.

MerylStreep

Shall we shine a light at that esteemed Swiss company, Nestle
Yes ? They’ve come up with some corkers to save money ( or fiddle) unfortunately they killed people along the way.

utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/

Hurrah, and for once, we agree. Nestlé's business aims and tactics are disgusting, and aimed mainly at the poorest in the third world. Most of the people I know agree, and would not own shares or work there. Sadly 1000s of expats work for them, many from UK, and on vast salaries. Despicable- glad we agree. What is has to do with this thread however, I have NO idea.

From Farming Business today- they are very concerned. Because they have to abide by all EU rules and all their exported foods to EU are thoroughly checked- but they suffer unfair competition from unchecked food coming in from EU- and now also from Indonesia and Australia.

Concerns over food security and exposure to disease

With the government missing its most recent legislative timeline, NFU Scotland president Martin Kennedy has called on the Cabinet Office to make a formal announcement on the delay and provide a fresh timescale for introducing border checks.

“The Scottish food and farming sector is yet again angered and appalled at a decision that seriously disregards the interests of our home food producers in favour of a cheap food policy that encourages asymmetric trade.”

While the government was due to roll out a new Border target operating model (TOM) on 31st October, followed by physical import checks starting in January 2024 and a full regime in place by October 2024, NFU Scotland was extremely disappointed to learn that ongoing delays are set to continue.

Mr Kennedy also highlighted that the government’s “lax approach” to border controls increases the risk of farmers and crofters being exposed to devastating animal and plant diseases such as African Swine Fever.

“The longer there is no effective system in place, the greater the distortion of the market for UK producers – with importers facing less bureaucracy and cost than those looking to export produce from the UK to EU – and the longer our borders are left open to the potential introduction of plant and animal diseases.

“We understand that the UK Government will shortly set out the new timetable for the import regime, to finally deliver a level playing field for UK farming, food and drink sectors. Regrettably, there will be little confidence amongst industry that the timetable will be adhered to,” Mr Kennedy concluded.

British Veterinary Association president Malcolm Morley also expressed frustration over the government delaying the introduction of crucial border checks on EU food imports, adding the move is putting the UK’s biosecurity at serious risk of imported diseases.

“The British Veterinary Association urges the Government to urgently press ahead with introducing the checks or risk the safety and security of our agricultural industry, food security and UK public health.”

MaizieD

Gnet posters are so relentlessly middle bl**dy class...

Is that a crime? (asking for a friend)

Gnet posters are so relentlessly middle bl**dy class...

Germanshepherdsmum

When I go into our local butcher’s, who only sells locally sourced meat (if it’s free range it doesn’t need the additional label of organic which fp has decided to introduce), I see people buying very small quantities to suit their needs. A lot of older people don’t have big appetites and if they only want one chop, two rashers of bacon or two sausages he happily sells them that. There’s always a queue and he will happily deliver no matter how small the order. You really have no idea fp.

Oh, FGS. Do ignore the government's figures. Nearly 50% of the food 'on the plate' in the UK is imported. We must inevitably buy imported foods in some form or another.

I'm sure that most of us have a lovely local butcher who sells pukka met; we've got three in our local small town, but I doubt very much they serve all of its population. Probably a few hundred out of a population of a few thousand. The remainder of which pop off to the local supermarkets and bulk freezer shops to buy goodness knows what...

Germanshepherdsmum

When I go into our local butcher’s, who only sells locally sourced meat (if it’s free range it doesn’t need the additional label of organic which fp has decided to introduce), I see people buying very small quantities to suit their needs. A lot of older people don’t have big appetites and if they only want one chop, two rashers of bacon or two sausages he happily sells them that. There’s always a queue and he will happily deliver no matter how small the order. You really have no idea fp.

Of course I have a clue- I had such a butcher at the bottom of my road, there is one near our flat, there are several near my daughters and other family members, who are all doing very well thank you. You have NO idea about the difficulties facing individuals and families who are truly struggling in this crisis, NONE at all. And just repeating 'Me and mine are alright Jack' is just so insensitive.

I am talking about those families who are really struggling at the moment, and cheap end ready made meals, and in work cantines, where budgets are so tight, etc.

And of course, this is compounded with other food producing and sourcing issues. Who has not go a clue here, the experienced real farmer, or Anne blooming Widdecombe?

youtu.be/PemoVSstv3c

Is she on Gransnet, I wonder.

Shall we shine a light at that esteemed Swiss company, Nestle
Yes ? They’ve come up with some corkers to save money ( or fiddle) unfortunately they killed people along the way.

utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/

I have posted the concerns voiced by the Food Standards Authority, but I'm sure that GNet posters know far more about food safety than they do...

When I go into our local butcher’s, who only sells locally sourced meat (if it’s free range it doesn’t need the additional label of organic which fp has decided to introduce), I see people buying very small quantities to suit their needs. A lot of older people don’t have big appetites and if they only want one chop, two rashers of bacon or two sausages he happily sells them that. There’s always a queue and he will happily deliver no matter how small the order. You really have no idea fp.

So basically we need more food inspectors in the U.K., which we would have needed if we had remained part of the EU, so nothing to do with us no longer being a member state.

What I am saying, GG13, is that EU member states have legislation which can be used in the EU to sanction rogue traders from any member state. What I am suggesting is, now that we no longer under that legislative umbrella, do we have any mechanism to bring rogue EU exporters to book? I doubt that we do.

I'm sorry that I don't seem to be able to get my point across. It's nothing to do with the numbers of public health inspectors in the UK, it's to do with what action can we take against traders from the EU who violate the EU food standards (which I believe are still ours as the EU regulations were taken into UK law and haven't been repealed)

Animal welfare and environmental impact is also a priority for us and a key concern for our shoppers. By working with Red Tractor farmers, we know that they take pride in producing meat that has been produced in accordance with high animal welfare regulations whilst safeguarding against environmental impact.”

Perhaps because the OP doesn't live or shop for food in the UK she might not be aware of the Red Tractor logo, also do you really think restaurants or food companies would use dodgy meat they would be shut down

And NO Callistemon, those issues are not being faced by other European countries. Brexit and the failure to plan for the consequences, and the total incompetence of the Government, has left the UK wide opened to fraudsters and the mafias out there. They will exploit this as long as they can

So how have these fraudsters and the Mafia survived so long in EU countries?