Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

I thought that importing from the EU was dead simple at the moment because of the lack of import controls.

It's exporting from the UK that is difficult because of EU third country importation requirements.

Not this again! And OP doesn’t live in the UK or the EU.

Indeed, Maizie.

I don’t live in USA or Israel but have felt quite free to comment on their government recently, and fully intend to do so in future.

MaizieD

I thought that importing from the EU was dead simple at the moment because of the lack of import controls.

It's exporting from the UK that is difficult because of EU third country importation requirements.

I thought the same.

I wasn't attacking Fp in any way. Just querying why EU exporters would stop exporting to the UK when they have such advantageous terms already.

I agree wwm, but the OP has something of a Brexit obsession.

OP is British, GSM. Has every right to comment.

If you don't like the thread don't join in.

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree wwm, but the OP has something of a Brexit obsession.

Why do you think? this is serious stuff.

GSM - where I live is irrelevant to the facts.

I think it's relative to all of us GSM. I have no idea why businesses would ever trust the Tory's again.

The Standards Controls were supposed to be coming in in October. When the linked video came out (last week) the EU were saying the Goverment hadn't shown them their plans yet - and we need the EU to help us implement them!

That, for me, doesn't make it just about "Brexit", a dead duck if there ever was one. It makes it about the running theme of incompetence ever since the Government got into power. They have no realistic plans for anything. They had no plans or structured systems for Brexit, for Covid, nor for the problems of the NHS. Whatever they were educated in it wasn't competence.

As Phil Moorhouse says, about the systems we have. We take on trust that what it says on form is what is in the box. Because what we have managed to do is both underfunded and understaffed. Just when money is tight, "government are officially turning a blind eye to smudgling costing us more than the entire annual budgets of most government departments".

We cannot afford this government!

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree wwm, but the OP has something of a Brexit obsession.

You post a lot about the law, that. Presumably that is your interest, and I’m fine with that, I would not be so rude to call it an obsession.

FB has always been keenly interested in Brexit, and I’m fine with that.

If I am not interested in your posts about the law, I don’t read them.

Perhaps you could be be so kind to do the same with FBs posts?

I think that there is absolutely no question that Brexit is dead.

The question is, where do we go from here?

I think the first thing is to begin an education programme for the voter, in order that everyone understands when decisions are made relating perhaps to closer working, greater immigration etc.

Indeed WWm2. This obsession some have with where I live currently, is beyond belief. I am British, my OH is British, so are my children, grandchildren, sils and bils, and so many more. Totally dependent on our UK pensions, and still tax payers in the UK having worked very hard all our adult life in UK.

So no, I will not be told that it has little or nothing to do with me/us. This is just plain 'bullying' and personal attack, yet again.

I have an interest in the law because it was my career for over 40 years wwm. I answer legal questions and legal matters raised here, where I can. I don’t start threads about it.

There is no obsession with where you live Fleurpepper. We know where you live and it’s neither the UK nor the EU, which
to me makes your intense interest in Brexit and the many threads you start about it puzzling. I live in the UK, as do the majority of my family, and we were all remainers - but it is as DAR says, a dead duck. We have more interesting things to talk about (and yes, sometimes that’s the law because that’s the profession a number of us chose).

*GSM. Nailed it

Out of interest, FP, apart from how one voted (and I was a remainer), what difference does any of this make now? We still buy all the Italian/German things we bought prior, we still ski -- I'm at a loss as to import issues.

Norah

Out of interest, FP, apart from how one voted (and I was a remainer), what difference does any of this make now? We still buy all the Italian/German things we bought prior, we still ski -- I'm at a loss as to import issues.

Do you buy them directly from the country in Europe though Norah, as in my experience that’s when there seem to be problems? Buying European goods that have been imported into the UK is okay, but it’s much slower and more expensive to buy directly, and I’ve found a few manufacturers just won’t send things to the UK, because it’s too much hassle for them.

For the moment, yes, EU exporters can bring anything they want to UK, without checks- which is very worrying. However, they have had to prepare, again and again- for checks required by Brexit. It has cost them money, time, effort - and they still have not got a clue if it will happen in just a few weeks time- or as seems to be, will be yet again, cancelled.

But the messing around, the queues, the extra costs, are putting them off- and will probably deter them totally if and when the checks are implemented. Which is why they keep being cancelled ... How is that for taking control back.

We have no idea how much unsafe product is coming in, or unsafe electrical goods, etc.

Why do you keep mentionning where I live, again and again- after any comment on the consequences of Brexit- if it is not an 'obsession'. Facts are facts- and they affect me and mine deeply, and my country. It's not about me, or where I live- totally irrelevant. Comment on the facts- not on me or where I live.

Norah

Out of interest, FP, apart from how one voted (and I was a remainer), what difference does any of this make now? We still buy all the Italian/German things we bought prior, we still ski -- I'm at a loss as to import issues.

The number of Brits spending money in Europe is falling all the time. As for skiing, numbers of Brits are massively down- first Covid, but now, exchange rates, added to cost of living crisis, cost of petrol and energy.

Sterling has lost massively against the Swiss Franc, and only the very rich can afford to come. And of course massive shortage of staff in resorts, as young Brits cannot come anymore to work. Exporting goods which are produced in a very high currency economy, would have to be sold at extortionate prices in Sterling. Export and imports are very complex issues.

Germanshepherdsmum

I have an interest in the law because it was my career for over 40 years wwm. I answer legal questions and legal matters raised here, where I can. I don’t start threads about it.

There is no obsession with where you live Fleurpepper. We know where you live and it’s neither the UK nor the EU, which
to me makes your intense interest in Brexit and the many threads you start about it puzzling. I live in the UK, as do the majority of my family, and we were all remainers - but it is as DAR says, a dead duck. We have more interesting things to talk about (and yes, sometimes that’s the law because that’s the profession a number of us chose).

I have an interest in Great Britain because is was my home for over 40 years

where I worked, had my children and raised them- where they still are. And where 100% of my income comes from, and where we still pay taxes. How can this not be enough for you.

Germanshepherdsmum

I have an interest in the law because it was my career for over 40 years wwm. I answer legal questions and legal matters raised here, where I can. I don’t start threads about it.

There is no obsession with where you live Fleurpepper. We know where you live and it’s neither the UK nor the EU, which
to me makes your intense interest in Brexit and the many threads you start about it puzzling. I live in the UK, as do the majority of my family, and we were all remainers - but it is as DAR says, a dead duck. We have more interesting things to talk about (and yes, sometimes that’s the law because that’s the profession a number of us chose).

She and her husband devoted their working lives to this country. And her children and grandchildren live here. She has every right to care about what’s happening to it imo. We’re still suffering from the repercussions of Brexit and I fully intend to continue to question what we have gained from it.

Fleurpepper

Norah

Out of interest, FP, apart from how one voted (and I was a remainer), what difference does any of this make now? We still buy all the Italian/German things we bought prior, we still ski -- I'm at a loss as to import issues.

The number of Brits spending money in Europe is falling all the time. As for skiing, numbers of Brits are massively down- first Covid, but now, exchange rates, added to cost of living crisis, cost of petrol and energy.

Sterling has lost massively against the Swiss Franc, and only the very rich can afford to come. And of course massive shortage of staff in resorts, as young Brits cannot come anymore to work. Exporting goods which are produced in a very high currency economy, would have to be sold at extortionate prices in Sterling. Export and imports are very complex issues.

Thank you for answering and laying in Swiss pricing.

German and Italian purchases seem to be priced fairly normally, considering world inflation. We typically ski Germany and Austria. I don't recall seeing a massive uptick in prices, I'll look to my records.

Fleurpepper I am not qualified to comment on all the other stuff, but this I would dispute. The number of Brits spending money in Europe is falling all the time. Certainly, in France this is not the case. The INSEE notes that tourism in France has been boosted by a large increase in visitors from the UK. Overnight stays by British tourists rose 102.5%, compared to an increase of 41.7% for Germans, 9.7% for Dutch, and 62.3% for Americans. All these Brits are staying in hotels in France and spending on food, trips, and entertainment.
These figures do not include the 1000s of Brits staying on campsites, and from what DD2 told me last week their campsite in Brittany was packed with other British families. As was the ferry.

I buy some things direct from the EU, Germany in particular. No problems. Brexit is done, whether we like it or not. So what if Brits are spending less in the EU, if indeed that is the case - the OP hasn’t supplied any evidence of that. What does that matter to us in the UK? Why the histrionics?

No reduction in our friends and family skiing in France/Austria this year. Or travelling to European countries and further afield for any holidays.