Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper your OP mentions ^meat and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease^

That does not mean it is rotten. Meat that could carry foot and mouth or TB, or other diseases, don't have to be 'rotten'.

Below quality goods, including meat, will not find their way into large super markets, mostly.

As for skiing, NO it was not me, but Norah, I believe- and I responded. It is a fact that holidays have become a lot more expensive for UK residents, due to inflation all over, including EU and rest of the world combined with the low value of Sterling.

Callistemon21 oops crossed posts

Perhaps you would explain what you mean by ‘those with the means to do so’ and why you exclude the big discount supermarkets Aldi and Lidl from the discussion fp.

Fleurpepper your OP mentions meat and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease

Fleurpepper

Norah

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

No indeed- which is why I added 'those with the means to do so.

We are not talking about Aldi, Lidl, etc- and I am not talking about 'rotten food' either.

At the moment, the EU could export anything to the UK without any controls- yes MEAT and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease

Rotten food.

GrannyGravy13

OK Fleurpepper if you think my post of 10.13 is rude and verging on bullying you please report it.

Just too pathetic to report, same old, same old. Water over a duck's back.

Norah

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

No indeed- which is why I added 'those with the means to do so.

We are not talking about Aldi, Lidl, etc- and I am not talking about 'rotten food' either.

Whitewavemark2

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

😄 I’m not sure where promoting German meat and dairy would get them. I’d seriously question their marketing techniques!

Obviously you don't shop in Aldi or Lidl.

Lil German Week, Polish Week, Italian Week, Greek Week, French Week, Spanish Week etc

Taste of Italy, Taste of Greece, Taste of Spain and typically Aldi has a German Week twice a year ......

I'm sure none of it is rotten.

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

Whitewavemark2

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

😄 I’m not sure where promoting German meat and dairy would get them. I’d seriously question their marketing techniques!

Müller yogurts for sale in this country are supposedly made in the UK - should I be worried in case they try to sneak German ones in as Müller is a German company? They are DH's favourites.

Edam cheese?
German ham?
Danish bacon (I don't buy it but I know a lot of people do)

This is really worrying.

Oh dear.

This thread seems to have strayed off the point and into a criticism of anyone who is “other” and therefore can have no say. Do those of you who live in the sticks have any right to comment on anything that happens in London? Obviously not if we are to apply some of the logic on here. This all plays into the little island surrounded by sewage filled seas mentality. I’m ashamed of people who use phrases such as “ my country” when attacking others. Brexit has been an economic and social disaster which we should be still discussing as it is still impacting millions of us.

I'm wondering what the core message is here.

Is it that I should avoid French Brie in Tesco, Spanish satsumas and olive oil in Sainsbury's, and, one of my favourites, Greek or Italian Week in Lidl in case they are trying to palm rotten food off on me?
😲

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

😄 I’m not sure where promoting German meat and dairy would get them. I’d seriously question their marketing techniques!

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

OK Fleurpepper if you think my post of 10.13 is rude and verging on bullying you please report it.

Indeed. And you have to be well off too apparently.

No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so. Not sure if you have noticed, but we have a real cost of living crisis -with people not sure how they are going to feed themselves or their children- and this in the middle of summer.
So, a cost of living crisis in Switzerland? Whoulda thunk it?
If on the other hand FP is yet again telling us about the UK, I would take serious issue with the statement about buying British being for the well heeled in rural areas.
Walthamstow Market is cheap and cheerful, but with excellent quality food. So a “No” on both counts. As is Tooting Broadway Market. And no doubt many others in other towns around the country.

Please stop lecturing us as if you know better than we do what is on our own doorstep. And less heavy sarcasm about “not noticing we have a cost of living crisis”
Most of us are on pensions and not necessarily gold plated public service ones AND other countries are experiencing their own cost of living crisis.

I was a bit stunned to read that only people in rural areas can buy British food. This is so absurd it's laughable.

A very ignorant comment

Fleurpepper

GrannyGravy13

Just buy British meat, dairy and vegetables, no need for excessive food miles

Fleurpepper there is absolutely no point trying to have a reasoned discussion regarding the relationship between U.K. and EU with you as you are so anti U.K. and all for everything being so much better in the EU.

I suggest you look at food bank use in Germany (2 million at the last count) and the fact that 1 in 6 of the population is deemed to be living in poverty (all verifiable on line) the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere.

No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so. Not sure if you have noticed, but we have a real cost of living crisis- with people not sure how they are going to feed themselves or their children- and this in the middle of summer. It will get much worse this winter due to high cost of energy and so much more. Saying 'just eat British meat' is so so entitled and totally unrealistic currently for most. That meat will not go to your local butcher's, but into all sorts of ready made produce, etc- cheap burgers, etc, that YOU will not eat.

And NO, I will not write a whole page again about the fact I care so much for what is happening to the UK, my country as well as yours, where my pension comes from, where I still pay taxes and have property, where all my family incl GCs and most of our friends live- makes me anti UK - not one single tiny weeny bit. Au contraire, and I have said so so many times.

Extremely rude, wrong, bordering on bullying- is to target all my posts, and instead of discussing the issue, just go for personal attack and say 'nowt to do with you, you foreigner' (because, yes, this is what you are saying).

A bit like Jendrick and all the Cons now, who will just turn any criticism into a personal attack in Starmer, or the Labour Party- instead of answering the question.

Where I live is 100% totally irrelevant to the point made in the OP.

There are indeed issues due to inflation, Covid and the war in Ukraine all over EU- that is true. But it has nothing to do with the issue in the OP. And as said before, it is because issues caused by above Covid and Ukraine is affecting all- that it will make it much more difficult for UK to access good, parts, foods, and all the things we can't produce ourselves (like essential chemicals and many medicines and treatments - which are, btw, coming in unchecked and we have no idea if some groups have targetted this sector too. The Mafia and other such groups are having a field day- and there is nothing the EU can do about it).

GG is so right. Fp’s views are very inflexible.

Why fp thinks buying British food is only for people in rural areas and the better off is impossible to understand. Markets and supermarkets in all areas sell British food, and it doesn’t have to be expensive. I pay more for high welfare locally reared meat and free range eggs. Factory farmed meat and battery eggs are available at much lower cost throughout the UK. I really don’t like someone who has chosen to live abroad telling me how things are in my country and being critical of it. I find it offensive.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

Not this again! And OP doesn’t live in the UK or the EU.

Indeed, Maizie.

Good point.

But because the country where you live (whatever your nationality) has a different relationship with the EU which sounds interesting.

Would it be worth the UK pursuing a closer relationship with the EU along the same lines?

Now that is an interesting question. Remember at the time, a great deal was talked about a Norway style deal, similar to the one the UK has with Switzerland. That would have been quite possible, but Johnson chose to go for the hardest of deals. Norway style would have had one condition, not negotiable, and that would have been Free Movement of People.

I think it was Theresa May, surprisingly.

But truly, this thread is not about skiing for goodness sake!

But you brought the subject up, not me, FleurP

GrannyGravy13

Just buy British meat, dairy and vegetables, no need for excessive food miles

Fleurpepper there is absolutely no point trying to have a reasoned discussion regarding the relationship between U.K. and EU with you as you are so anti U.K. and all for everything being so much better in the EU.

I suggest you look at food bank use in Germany (2 million at the last count) and the fact that 1 in 6 of the population is deemed to be living in poverty (all verifiable on line) the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere.

No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so. Not sure if you have noticed, but we have a real cost of living crisis- with people not sure how they are going to feed themselves or their children- and this in the middle of summer. It will get much worse this winter due to high cost of energy and so much more. Saying 'just eat British meat' is so so entitled and totally unrealistic currently for most. That meat will not go to your local butcher's, but into all sorts of ready made produce, etc- cheap burgers, etc, that YOU will not eat.

And NO, I will not write a whole page again about the fact I care so much for what is happening to the UK, my country as well as yours, where my pension comes from, where I still pay taxes and have property, where all my family incl GCs and most of our friends live- makes me anti UK - not one single tiny weeny bit. Au contraire, and I have said so so many times.

Extremely rude, wrong, bordering on bullying- is to target all my posts, and instead of discussing the issue, just go for personal attack and say 'nowt to do with you, you foreigner' (because, yes, this is what you are saying).

A bit like Jendrick and all the Cons now, who will just turn any criticism into a personal attack in Starmer, or the Labour Party- instead of answering the question.

Where I live is 100% totally irrelevant to the point made in the OP.

There are indeed issues due to inflation, Covid and the war in Ukraine all over EU- that is true. But it has nothing to do with the issue in the OP. And as said before, it is because issues caused by above Covid and Ukraine is affecting all- that it will make it much more difficult for UK to access good, parts, foods, and all the things we can't produce ourselves (like essential chemicals and many medicines and treatments - which are, btw, coming in unchecked and we have no idea if some groups have targetted this sector too. The Mafia and other such groups are having a field day- and there is nothing the EU can do about it).

Several UK businesses have commented that EU suppliers will no longer do business with them as it's too complicated post-Brexit. The present Tory government needs to do better. The recent fallback to the EC mark (an announcement slipped out after Parliament rose) after businesses spent millions preparing for a UK kitemark (sovereignty nonsense of course) shows they have finally realised what business has been telling them for years after Brexit - that trade is facilitated by common standards, not divergent ones despite all the twaddle about Global Britain.

Just buy British meat, dairy and vegetables, no need for excessive food miles

Fleurpepper there is absolutely no point trying to have a reasoned discussion regarding the relationship between U.K. and EU with you as you are so anti U.K. and all for everything being so much better in the EU.

I suggest you look at food bank use in Germany (2 million at the last count) and the fact that 1 in 6 of the population is deemed to be living in poverty (all verifiable on line) the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere.