Lee Anderson, Conservative deputy chair says asylum seekers should ‘fuck off back to France’ if they don’t want to be housed on the Bobby Stockholm barge

Nannashirlz

vegansrock

The silent majority are silent for a reason. They haven’t got a clue. 30p Lee is straight out of the Trump playbook. 30p Lee is so called as he claimed to be able to make meals for 30p, so no one needs to use a foodbank. Johnson said “ fuck business” when he was asked something about the negative up impact of Brexit on U.K. businesses, so it’s nothing new.

You haven’t seen any of his interviews clearly. Lee helps out in foodbanks and the ppl that run it were teaching ppl to cook. When you could cook a meal for 30p portion. That’s old news 🤣 as for what he said Well done Lee 👏👏👏 it’s about time someone said something it. As it’s what most normal ppl think as we watching our country going slowly down hill. They should be grateful for what they get France only gives them a tent maybe we should

He invited all Labour politicians to come to Mansfield and see the work that was being done in foodbanks and not a single one turned up. He said Labour were not interested in solutions merely in political point scoring so he left and joined the Conservatives.

OK he should not have sworn like he did but he is pro active and unlike many does not sit on the fence dithering about.

www.chad.co.uk/news/people/tory-ashfield-mp-lee-anderson-reveals-reasons-why-he-left-labour-and-more-in-interview-at-gb-news-3869684

I think that the parents of Rishi Sunak, Suella Braverman, Pritti Patel and many other Tories were economic migrants. So why do they demonise economic migrants?

Oreo

I don’t care about his language, too much pearl clutching about that.
He said what loads of us think.Nothing wrong with housing migrants on the Bibby Stockholm, it’s better accommodation than many people have and has been used in Germany for migrants and has also been used for workers.
Bent lawyers, do gooding charities and useless politicians are all doing their damn worst to hold everything up. They want all the people who arrive here by small boat to be housed in hotels.It’s a bad outcome for the British taxpayer and a kick in the teeth for any homeless.

When it was used in Germany it held the number of people it was designed for- about 200. Not the 500 being stuffed into it here. The dangers of fire and infections will be huge because of the overcrowding.

Why are the tories so opposed to economic migrants?

The tories are dthe ones who tell people to Get on yer bike, you’d think they would admire the initiative of these enterprising young men. Many of them have skills that we need.

As for the swearing - inexcusable.

Maybe if these disgraceful foul mouthed politicians had the slightest bit of humanity they would engage brain before opening mouths!!!
Also why on earth with all the job vacancies everywhere why oh why can’t these asylum seekers work for minimum wage (Brits aren’t taking the jobs) in the sectors where most needed and contribute to their keep.
And once they are allowed to stay in UK they cannot apply for benefits until they’ve been in the UK and contributed to our society with no criminel activity for at least a minimum of 5yrs!
That way all benefit.

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MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

the ones who were refused would still pay the Criminal Smuggling gangs to get here
Of course that would continue so what would happen when they arrive?

Have Labour thought this through properly?

In answer to your last question No!

It’s very easy to be in opposition, when elected to Govern the reality of the situation sets in.

We know that if Labour is the majority Government lots are predicting, all their plans that fail to reach fruition will be blamed on the last Conservative Government.

The ones who weren't accepted could be repatriated immediately if they arrived by small boat. That would be a perfectly legitimate thing to do.

I'm not sure why you think that Labour are stupid and haven't thought of it.

I have not said Labour are stupid MaizieD please do not misquote me.

I can only go on what I have heard the Labour leader and his front benchers say on this subject, which on multiple occasions has been that they will not rule out the use of barges to house migrants. They say they will cooperate with the French authorities, but surely that is what Sunak and Macron have been doing, hence the agreement that we would send extra millions to their border force.

The main stumbling block is obviously dealing with the (non existent) paperwork to prove who the refugees are and from whence they have come, which is taking months. Is it because the refugees have been told by the traffickers today nought? I doubt the Home Office have enough crystal balls for that task, whoever is in Government.

Stop giving them benefits and it won’t stop them coming - they’ll live on the streets or in tents and have to work illegally. Why don’t we think about the people who are trafficked here, live under the radar, and are employed by criminals selling drugs, prostitution etc- a much bigger problem Let’s face it , the tories have been in power for 13 years and have made this countries problems worse. They can’t blame all our woes on the EU any longer, so we have to blame all the failings in our public services on immigrants. I expect they’re to blame for our dire transport system, sewage in the sea and underfunding of police, nothing whatsoever to do with this government.

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

the ones who were refused would still pay the Criminal Smuggling gangs to get here
Of course that would continue so what would happen when they arrive?

Have Labour thought this through properly?

In answer to your last question No!

It’s very easy to be in opposition, when elected to Govern the reality of the situation sets in.

We know that if Labour is the majority Government lots are predicting, all their plans that fail to reach fruition will be blamed on the last Conservative Government.

The ones who weren't accepted could be repatriated immediately if they arrived by small boat. That would be a perfectly legitimate thing to do.

I'm not sure why you think that Labour are stupid and haven't thought of it.

The language might have been wrong, but what he said is what a lot of people in this country think. We have 1000,s of homeless people who would give their right hand to have any sort of accommodation. Stop giving them the benefits and the extras and you'll stop them coming. We're becoming the laughing stock of the world -certainly in France!

I don’t care about his language, too much pearl clutching about that.
He said what loads of us think.Nothing wrong with housing migrants on the Bibby Stockholm, it’s better accommodation than many people have and has been used in Germany for migrants and has also been used for workers.
Bent lawyers, do gooding charities and useless politicians are all doing their damn worst to hold everything up. They want all the people who arrive here by small boat to be housed in hotels.It’s a bad outcome for the British taxpayer and a kick in the teeth for any homeless.

Callistemon21

^the ones who were refused would still pay the Criminal Smuggling gangs to get here^
Of course that would continue so what would happen when they arrive?

Have Labour thought this through properly?

In answer to your last question No!

It’s very easy to be in opposition, when elected to Govern the reality of the situation sets in.

We know that if Labour is the majority Government lots are predicting, all their plans that fail to reach fruition will be blamed on the last Conservative Government.

the ones who were refused would still pay the Criminal Smuggling gangs to get here
Of course that would continue so what would happen when they arrive?

Have Labour thought this through properly?

11:46spabbygirl
I blame the idiots who voted these people in, Labour have a great plan, assess people before they get on a small boat, it means increasing border control staff in Calais but those who are offered a place could simply get on P&O ferry, no small boats required so the criminal gangs that run them would be out of a job.

Haha what a load of tosh, do you really believe this would stop the boats what about the ones with no ID, the economic migrants would they be allowed on a P & O ferry (although if Labour were in charge they would probably let anyone in) the ones who were refused would still pay the Criminal Smuggling gangs to get here. If this is Labours plan God help us if they ever get into power

MerylStreep

I don’t know if the situation has changed but this is what I witnessed in the housing office in Southend some years ago.
( the war in Kosovo)
A young man presented himself and his leave to stay papers.
He wanted a council house/ flat because now he was homeless.
The woman asked him if he had a wife/ children, no.
He was told there is nothing we can do for you.
He turned away from the counter looking shell shocked.
What is going to happen to the 10s of thousands of asylum seekers when they do get their leave to stay papers.

www.gransnet.com/forums/travel/1326344-I-love-to-cruise-do-you

Not a thread about a thread, but:

What is going to happen to the 10s of thousands of asylum seekers when they do get their leave to stay papers

We are not supposed to go on luxury cruises any more because it is damaging the environment.
So what will happen to all those lovely cruise liners when they become redundant soon?

More upmarket than a barge.

I agree as well Umstongran. They think Britain is a walkover. As for the F.O. that was mentioned at first I believe the leader of the SNP was suggesting at the Edinburgh fringe that more people should use it. Perhaps we should!!!!

I don’t know if the situation has changed but this is what I witnessed in the housing office in Southend some years ago.
( the war in Kosovo)
A young man presented himself and his leave to stay papers.
He wanted a council house/ flat because now he was homeless.
The woman asked him if he had a wife/ children, no.
He was told there is nothing we can do for you.
He turned away from the counter looking shell shocked.
What is going to happen to the 10s of thousands of asylum seekers when they do get their leave to stay papers.

We need a speedier system! People who enter the country illegally need to stopped and sorted promptly. Sent back immediately if not claiming asylum, given aid and humane conditions if fleeing, and decisions made quickly. Its not inhumane to keep people cooped up on a boat with all the basics (food, water, shelter, warmth, legal and emotional support and health care)- for a couple of weeks whilst paperwork is sorted out and careful decisions made promptly- but long delays could make conditions inhumane.

Paperbackwriter

Some of you on here need to check your bigotry and remember that there is nothing illegal about seeking asylum. As for the term 'economic migrants', that applies to anyone who works in a country other than their own. Some on here may be among those numbers. Perhaps if the British could get their heads round the truth that this also makes them 'migrants' and not the 'expats' they like to think they are, we might have more equality in the world. Just thank the lord that none of you are likely to need to flee your country in a flimsy boat.

I don't think some understand what is truth is Paperbackwriter.

One day the the boot may be on the other foot and we may be seeking safety. Then the same who winge about helping others beit "our own" or human beings from other countries will winge about Scotland, Wales and Ireland not letting us in. They will winge about not being allowed to be where their sense of entitlement tells them they should be - at the front of each and every queue.

Did anyone say this sort of thing in the World Wars? What must it be like in the places that people are escaping from, in order to make that journey? I wonder how much truth there is in stories of corrupt lawyers and bent doctors. As a society we are becoming nasty and - sadly - that's very evident in this thread. I'm shocked at the horrible attitude. It's a big, bad world out there, but it's getting smaller. We went out to plunder Africa and other places, and maybe now things will gradually even up. Pity we can't put a great big ten mile high wall around the UK - eh?

sundowngirl

Urmstongran

Well I think he speaks for the silent majority in this country. Decent, clean basic accommodation and 3 meals a day? Gym use. Free buses into Weymouth. Doctor and dentist on call. Pocket money. A mobile phone. A games room and library.

What did these migrants expect? Hotel bed and board? That’s what they’ve been hearing from their mates. It’s time to make being over here clean but basic so that a few phone calls back across the Channel put some migrants off paying extortionate fees to traffickers. We are such a soft touch. France laughs at our naïveté.

It’s time we in the UK woke up. £6 million PER DAY this is costing the taxpayer here. Yes, decent living quarters ought to be provided. But these migrants (assisted by Care4Calais and lawyers whose best interests are served by thwarting all proposals - money in their coffers by keeping this roundabout turning) need a reality check.

Well said!!! I totally agree with everything you've said. Many of our own are on the streets, or dying in mould ridden accommodation. They would probably love to to be housed on the Bibby Stockholm with all its facilities. Some of these illegal migrants have turned down the offer - Offer??? there shouldn't be a selection!

My thoughts exactly. Well said.

Germanshepherdsmum

It is perfectly lawful to use part of the overseas aid budget on asylum seekers here. It’s not a ‘wheeze’.

We have been giving overseas aid for many years and it does little good given the corruption and tribal wars in many of the countries it goes to. Much of it is completely wasted.

It is not unlawful but it is unusual, we are the only G7 member to do this. Well we are now "wasting" (to use your phrase) less money than we were in 1997 and this has compromised the work of many charities that work to improve the lives of children and families in the poorest countries in the world. I actually find that extremely sad.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/oct/29/billions-in-foreign-aid-never-leaves-britain-under-sunak-rules-analysis

France is not a dangerous country for them, they are being offered safe accommodation and if they don’t like it then perhaps they should… France government said if U.K. didn’t make it all so easy there would be less illegal crossings. Remember these are not as far as I am aware, not families or children but mostly young men. Leaving a safe country, crossing illegally. His language might be a bit bad, but the message I agree with. I am not anti immigration and so many people do need a safe country, however young men not wanted to leave a hotel is not what I want to be paying taxes for…

WonderBra, JanCl, Paperbackwriter
I agree with everything you said.

How do you know what "most normal people think", Nanashirlz??