Diane Abbott’s take on drownings in Med

Casdon

Her biggest failing has always been reacting on the spur of the moment in an ill judged way though, she’s a loose canon. Her heart is in the right place though, unlike Anderson’s.

I agree - you've hit the nail on the head. She responds instinctively, and then appears to have second thoughts - she doesn't seem to have learned the 'art' of political life which requires a certain amount of ingenuity - or some would say canniness.

That woman should not be in politics, what she said was appalling. Nothing to do with which party she supports.

I think she must have posted that comment on the spur of the moment then went away, had a little think and decided it wasn't really appropriate.

If she had any respect for the dead Annie, she wouldn't have posted it to begin with.

I agree.

And Diane Abbott obviously realised she had tweeted in haste and removed it . Why didn't Anderson remove his ?

Respect for the dead can take many forms which may be different from our own. In her case it translated into anger and posting an inappropriate tweet which she later thought twice about and deleted. Has no one else ever felt anger at people dying needlessly?

Nope. I don't get this 'respect for the dead' thing.

I think she has a lot of anger about the dead, the fact that they were really unwanted and little attempt was made to save them. I read her words as bitter sarcasm.

I think both Mr. Anderson’s and Ms. Abbott’s comments came from frustration, albeit from different angles.

Our elected representatives are human it’s time that we stopped expecting them to be superhuman and never make a mistake.

GrannyGravy13

I think both Mr. Anderson’s and Ms. Abbott’s comments came from frustration, albeit from different angles.

Our elected representatives are human it’s time that we stopped expecting them to be superhuman and never make a mistake.

I think it's only the politicians belonging to the parties we don't support who we expect to be perfect!

Abbott is an independent.

I'm guessing that still wouldn't be your choice for a candidates credentials?

Iam64

I’m no fan of Corbyn but seriously - are we expected to believe our public services would be worse off if Labour had won the last election.

Now there's a thought. We could, of course, have had equal but differently based issues.

We might prefer the dispossessed to prosper rather than corrupt or even the not-corrupt capitalists. However, any extreme will leave generations picking up the pieces, undoing the bad and, very slowly, moving to some level of balance that goes back to growing the economy, society and the individual.

I don't object to the language- really what is the point? it's just in everyday use now.
The sentiments behind the statements reveal their real views though. Anderson plainly fails to understand that refugees are frequently escaping from death and risking their lives. Abbot realised and reacted to his words instinctively, then realised it was inappropriate. One couldn't care less about some people the other was revolted by him and cares so much.
Perhaps the reactions of those posting on GN reveal their own views. People fleeing death, risking their lives deserve proper respect and asylum. Imagining they are doing this so they get a room on a boat, or in a hotel is ridiculous.

They stopped fleeing when they reached the first safe country. Their choice to risk their lives crossing the channel.

Dianne Abbott seems to have an unending knack for wrong words at the wrong time, and a grasp of financial matters that borders on the bewildering. Whatever her motives, a life in the public eye seems less than a good choice for a woman lacking a filter for what is acceptable.

pascal30

I found her comment quite shocking, not because she quite rightly, IMO, called out Anderson, but because it was so insensitive to the tragedy of yet more migrants dying.

Exactly my thoughts.

yggdrasil

Diane Abbott's reply is justified. The Mail would twist anything she said. This was sarcastic but true.
Why no condemnation from the Mail for Lee Anderson's tirade?

Because it is a manipulative rag.

Iam64

I’m no fan of Corbyn but seriously - are we expected to believe our public services would be worse off if Labour had won the last election.

Maybe not. Labour might well have levelled up public services. Good stuff. But what about gender identity issues? They’d have gotten worse under Starmer. Black Lives Matter anyone? He and Rayner took the knee in his office remember? Jumping on woke bandwagons would (have been) right up Labour’s street I think. Gah!

Sparklefizz

pascal30

I found her comment quite shocking, not because she quite rightly, IMO, called out Anderson, but because it was so insensitive to the tragedy of yet more migrants dying.

Exactly my thoughts.

This.

I disagree Starmer jumps on ‘woke’ issues. He knows full well what a woman is, he’s also aware of the divisive nature of the trans debate. He was a senior lawyer and is an experienced politician attempting to avoid gender becoming an even bigger Thing. I’m relieved other ministers have been clear on this.

BLM - well they do. The legacy of slavery and colonialism live on. Independent research confirms walking the streets as a teenager, or driving a car - when black results in far more police stops than with white men/boys.

‘Woke’is an offensive term, it seems to have replaced the equally abusive term for those who object to racism, misogyny and believe those fleeing war/famine/persecution should be supported

Germanshepherdsmum

They stopped fleeing when they reached the first safe country. Their choice to risk their lives crossing the channel.

As I said your comments reflect your views and your perception of people fleeing death and persecution. "Not our problem" is a frequent excuse.

It’s Diane Abbot isn’t it? Nuff said.

Anyone fleeing death and persecution shouldn’t cross several safe European countries and then pay huge amounts to get on tiny leaky overcrowded small boats to cross the Channel.

DA ‘s heart is always in the right place, but she suffers from foot in mouth syndrome, - she speaks before she has fully thought it through.

There are lots of posters, including myself , suffer from the same syndrome.