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Diane Abbott’s take on drownings in Med

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Primrose53 Wed 09-Aug-23 22:24:59

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12390437/Diane-Abbott-migrants-tweet-Lee-Anderson-asylum-seekers-Bibby-Stockholm.html

yggdrasil Thu 10-Aug-23 08:05:11

Diane Abbott's reply is justified. The Mail would twist anything she said. This was sarcastic but true.
Why no condemnation from the Mail for Lee Anderson's tirade?

Nicenanny3 Thu 10-Aug-23 08:17:34

Tory former minister Brendan Clarke-Smith tweeted: 'And to think that Sir Keir Starmer campaigned for this person to be made our Home Secretary. From the article

Talking about Keir Starmer let's not forget he wanted Jeremy Corbyn to become Prime Minister shock

sassysaysso Thu 10-Aug-23 08:21:41

More self righteous hypocritical posturing from the Tories, deflecting Lee Anderson's original use of language onto Diane Abbot combined with latent racism and possibly misogyny.

Iam64 Thu 10-Aug-23 08:22:27

I’m no fan of Corbyn but seriously - are we expected to believe our public services would be worse off if Labour had won the last election.

Nicenanny3 Thu 10-Aug-23 08:30:36

Corbyn as PM and Abbott as Home Secretary it doesn't bare thinking about.😊

Primrose53 Thu 10-Aug-23 08:39:23

So why did she delete her tweet? If she truly thought it was OK then she should have stood by it.

eazybee Thu 10-Aug-23 08:39:46

I do not condone at all Lee Anderson's use of language in his comment about Bibby Stockholm, but to pretend criticism of Diane Abbott for using the same words is 'latent racism and possibly misogyny' is simply childish.

Anniebach Thu 10-Aug-23 08:41:42

Racism !

Casdon Thu 10-Aug-23 08:45:33

Diane Abbott has no status other than as an MP, she’s not on the shadow cabinet. I doubt many people would condone what she said whatever their political persuasion.

Grantanow Thu 10-Aug-23 08:45:39

Anderson's comment was disgraceful and Abbott's showed an insensitive lack of respect for the dead and their grieving relatives. Time for both of them to depart from public life.

Dickens Thu 10-Aug-23 08:47:07

Anderson's 'outburst' was sarcastic - he used coarse language to emphasise his point.

Which is exactly what Abbott has done.

Other than their opposing views - what is the difference? Why is it acceptable for Anderson to use the terminology, but not acceptable for DA to do the same?

She should not have deleted her tweet.

Anderson, with his language, has lowered the bar - this is the result. Sauce for the goose, etc.

Anyone who condones Anderson and condemns Abbott is a hypocrite.

sassysaysso Thu 10-Aug-23 08:49:16

Primrose53

So why did she delete her tweet? If she truly thought it was OK then she should have stood by it.

Clearly on reflection she didn't think it OK. Nothing wrong with that.

Dickens Thu 10-Aug-23 08:49:19

PS I am not a fan of Diane Abbott - just to make it clear.

DiamondLily Thu 10-Aug-23 08:50:04

I miss the days when politicians acted and talked appropriately, in public, remembering their position.

This yobbo style behaviour is unbecoming and, frankly, nasty.

Anderson and Abbott are both as bad as one another, both ignorant, and neither are use nor ornament.🙄

sassysaysso Thu 10-Aug-23 08:52:43

Casdon

Diane Abbott has no status other than as an MP, she’s not on the shadow cabinet. I doubt many people would condone what she said whatever their political persuasion.

Quite. So why is the DM making a big deal about it other than to set her up as the fall guy?

Anniebach Thu 10-Aug-23 08:53:54

It was spoken on on the news too.

Dickens Thu 10-Aug-23 08:56:04

Primrose53

So why did she delete her tweet? If she truly thought it was OK then she should have stood by it.

I agree. I wish she had stood by it.

If we are going to condone coarse terminology as acceptable for politicians' intense 'feelings' about a matter, then we cannot pick and choose who should or should not use it.

sassysaysso Thu 10-Aug-23 09:02:00

Diane Abbott changed her mind about using "coarse terminology" and deleted it. Nothing wrong with that

Dickens Thu 10-Aug-23 09:14:01

sassysaysso

Diane Abbott changed her mind about using "coarse terminology" and deleted it. Nothing wrong with that

What is "wrong" is that she doesn't have the courage to act in accordance with her belief in the face of criticism.

Though I can understand why. She is loathed by many and has had all sorts of online threats directed at her - including death threats.

Casdon Thu 10-Aug-23 09:18:40

Dickens

sassysaysso

Diane Abbott changed her mind about using "coarse terminology" and deleted it. Nothing wrong with that

What is "wrong" is that she doesn't have the courage to act in accordance with her belief in the face of criticism.

Though I can understand why. She is loathed by many and has had all sorts of online threats directed at her - including death threats.

Her biggest failing has always been reacting on the spur of the moment in an ill judged way though, she’s a loose canon. Her heart is in the right place though, unlike Anderson’s.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 10-Aug-23 09:21:52

It was an extremely distasteful comment.

Smileless2012 Thu 10-Aug-23 09:22:22

Very inappropriate as was Lee Anderson. What makes Diane Abbot's even more distasteful is people have died so perhaps it was that rather than changing her mind about using course terminology that lay behind her deletion.

Anniebach Thu 10-Aug-23 09:23:50

I think she deleted it out respect for the dead

pascal30 Thu 10-Aug-23 09:24:25

I found her comment quite shocking, not because she quite rightly, IMO, called out Anderson, but because it was so insensitive to the tragedy of yet more migrants dying.