An election looms, so I think it is time to look at all the success over the 13 years that we have witnessed from the government.

Sorry if I appear to be making a crude comment here, but Joseane implied that one of the benefits of having this Tory government was that the teen pregnancy rate has come down. Yes it has, but that's because, they have discovered online, virtual, share the photos and video sex.

How rude!!

Callistemon21

Well yes, I voted for him but felt let down.

I think anyone who had a relative in a Staffordshire hospital may never forget that dreadful episode.
😥

Nor the Iraq war.

Things go wrong in every government though. We all remember the bad things - but how many hospital/care/education scandals are there, year on year, whoever is in charge politically.
The Iraq war was a big mistake, but it was approved by parliament, not a Tony Blair maverick whim.
I don’t know what the answer is, nothing is perfect and it never will be, I just want to move on for the sake of the future of the UK from the self serving bunch of charlatans who are in power at the moment.

aonk

I’m very middle of the road when it comes to politics. I simply hope for what is best for the majority.
I would say one thing which you won’t like. The Tory party has prevented the Labour Party from being in power. We need to think of the reasons for this. One reason of course is Jeremy Corbyn but there are many others.

That would be the voting system then.

In the last general election, the number of voters it took to get each seat (one seat) per party was:

38,300 Conservative
50,800 Labour
336,000 Lib Dem
25,900 SNP
866,400 Green

That is not representative democracy!

You do not sound anywhere near the" middle of the road" in politics aonk. If there is no way you could compromise with Labour on their policies you can't possibly be. In fact I would say you're quite far to the right. Perhaps you mean the middle of the right?

Perhaps you can explain your view of "middle of the road" a little more specifically.

Well yes, I voted for him but felt let down.

I think anyone who had a relative in a Staffordshire hospital may never forget that dreadful episode.
😥

Nor the Iraq war.

Callistemon21

^Oh people you soon forget how it was under Blair^!

Oh, but he did stop smoking in public places for which I will be forever grateful Zoe65!

I could name a lot of things that were better under Blair, public services ran far more effectively, waiting lists were shorter. Actually, my political memory is long, it goes back even further than Thatcher, Thatcher, Milk Snatcher.
Anybody who is even slightly left of centre is branded a leftie on here, it’s actually quite amusing - I don’t think people realise that many of us are centre left, whereas they are much further to the right. I suppose it’s all relative.

Oh people you soon forget how it was under Blair!

Oh, but he did stop smoking in public places for which I will be forever grateful Zoe65!

A lot of financial help through the pandemic and with fuel costs and the cost of living too, and I have read here in the last few days about initiatives such as installation of insulation and boiler replacements, even installation of heat pumps.

twinnytwin

But they haven't got rid of it - so surely it can be counted as a positive thing.

Didn't they ignore it for one year?

Always the same on here,full of lefties .well this is what you will all have to look forward to should starmer and his crew win the next general election .
1 higher taxes to pay for all the promised things and the nhs etc
2 green taxes far in excess of noe
3.house building on the green belt
4anybody and everybody allowed into this country cos they vote Labour
5vat on private education so our state schools even more oversubscribed as some can’t afford private anymore
6rayner as deputy leader of this country with disgusting crass comments
7total anti car attitude
8all strikers appeased and given into

And that’s all I can think of off the cuff .
Tories have got us brexit which was a majority vote whether remainers like it or not .starmer woukd have or will try to take us back in or do anything to make them happy .we are a sovereign country,not part of the eu.
Tories got us thru a pandemic ,we had the vaccine first .
They are trying to stop the boats .
They are trying to solve economic issues ,
We are fighting to stop putin
Lots of help with childcare and more coming
Oh people you soon forget how it was under Blair !

Siope

You are just not defining success in the right way.

Just for example:

They have successfully removed the cap on banker's bonuses.

They have successfully ensured an additional 100,000 people are paying for private healthcare (2019 - 2022 figures), and the highest number ever have used private health insurance

They have successfully increased the number of children living in poverty from 3.6m in 2010 to 4.2 million in 2022, 350,000 of that increase between 2020 and 2022.

They have successfully introduced a loophole into the windfall taxes for energy companies, which will see them benefit to the tune of £10.6 billion in tax rebates between 2022 and 2027 - that roughly equates to funding pay rises for all NHS and education staff for the same period, which is quite obviously unaffordable... oh.

And they have made probably the largest ever handouts to their mates for crooked contracts, partly through Covid but also for pre-existing white elephants such as HS2.

Let’s not pretend that that this group of Tories exists for anything other than their own self-interest and to make sure the rich get richer while the rest of us pay. I don’t include all Tory politicians in this but certainly the rabble that have managed to gain control are not like anything that has gone before.

Agree that the vaccination programme was a success. And good to have an Asian PM and more diverse representation in government.
Mmmm, can’t think of anything else that has been a success…..
Can think of lots of negatives but as these have been mentioned many times before I won’t go on and on.

aonk

I’m very middle of the road when it comes to politics. I simply hope for what is best for the majority.
I would say one thing which you won’t like. The Tory party has prevented the Labour Party from being in power. We need to think of the reasons for this. One reason of course is Jeremy Corbyn but there are many others.

The Tory Party can't stop the Labour Party winning an election.
The Labour Party managed to lose all by themselves.

One reason of course is Jeremy Corbyn but there are many others

Jeremy Corbyn and Momentum, the SNP taking Scottish Labour votes, infighting in the Party etc.

Do you think they could get the prize for the most 3 or 5 word targets (e.g.stop the boats , Make Britain great again) which they failed to reach ?

You are just not defining success in the right way.

Just for example:

They have successfully removed the cap on banker's bonuses.

They have successfully ensured an additional 100,000 people are paying for private healthcare (2019 - 2022 figures), and the highest number ever have used private health insurance

They have successfully increased the number of children living in poverty from 3.6m in 2010 to 4.2 million in 2022, 350,000 of that increase between 2020 and 2022.

They have successfully introduced a loophole into the windfall taxes for energy companies, which will see them benefit to the tune of £10.6 billion in tax rebates between 2022 and 2027 - that roughly equates to funding pay rises for all NHS and education staff for the same period, which is quite obviously unaffordable... oh.

If randoms are brought into the thread then it takes a different path, but if you wish to talk about Michelle Mone or the other one then go ahead.Nothing to do with this thread tho.
CaroleAnn is as entitled to her opinion as you or me btw and doesn’t have to ‘expand’ on her statement.

^ if you have beef then start a new thread^.

You are not the thread police, Oreo

Whatever motive you might have ascribed to the OP, if someone comes and tells us that the subject of the thread is doing fine and we're a lot of moaning minnies, then I think it's fair enough to ask them to expand on that statement.

I think many Scottish voters are regretting trusting Nichola Sturgeon and husband.

Yeah paddyann54 that would be the same energy hikes.They probably are making money for the shareholders but that doesn’t affect worldwide energy prices which go up when energy gets scarcer.That isn’t caused by govt, you do know that?
As for Dido Harding and Michelle Mone, if you have beef then start a new thread.

Does that apply also to those of us who vote Conservative?

Would that be the "worldwide energy hikes" that are making BILLIONS in profits for the shareholders? ITS THE TORY WAY,cash only flows upstream while the rest of the people sink in poverty .
What HAS happened to Dido HARDINGS BILLION £ windfall or Michelle Mone and her nice new yacht?
You know the story ....never trust a tory ...selfservatives one and all

MaizieD

CaroleAnne

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

Well, this thread was started so that tory supporters could showcase the tory achievements of the past 13 years.

A splendid opportunity for you to detail all these positive ways forward, isn't it?

I'm sure that many of us are all ears...

You are joking I take it? This thread was started by a left wing poster for completely different reasons as I stated from the off.
CarolAnne don’t worry most of us Labour supporters are not like that at all and tho I want to see Keir Starmer in the number ten hot seat am not so partisan that I think all this Tory govt does is bad and everything Labour will do is wonderful beyond belief. For quite a long time after the next election and change of govt nothing much will be able to change.Coming after the pandemic and the effect on the economy came the war in Ukraine and worldwide energy price hikes affecting food and utilities.Keeping people and firms afloat during Covid years and helping people with money towards the rising gas/ electricity prices not to mention the six million quid a day towards illegal migrants won’t be easy to bounce back from.
Most people don’t spend their lives being miserable tho, it’s just a few on social media that seem to glory in it.
My Mum has a saying that fits ‘it’s being so cheerful as keeps ‘em going’ 😂

Glad you are middle of the road😄😄😄😄

I’m very middle of the road when it comes to politics. I simply hope for what is best for the majority.
I would say one thing which you won’t like. The Tory party has prevented the Labour Party from being in power. We need to think of the reasons for this. One reason of course is Jeremy Corbyn but there are many others.

twinnytwin

But they haven't got rid of it - so surely it can be counted as a positive thing.

Yes, there was cross party support, I think it’s something that would have been introduced whoever was in charge - and Labour have said it will be in their manifesto. It was suspended in 2022/23 though.