..due to Legionella bacteria being found! First the barge was highlighted as a major fire risk, now it is a significant health risk. Did the Home Office not do due diligence before spending excessive taxpayer money for this white elephant? Health issues are decidedly dangerous as it is planned to house double the normal accommodation of 222 residents on this barge by installing bunks!
Glorianny
Just wondering, Can we have our money back? £1.6 billion given away for a barge which isn't fit for purpose.
It could be the water supply to the barge that contains Legionella not the pipes and showers on the barge.
They need to find the source quickly and should never have let anyone on board until all was found to be clear.
Is there an air con system on board? Is it in that?
If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.
It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.
Casdon
I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.
However, the GP issue is a really serious one, and will inevitably impact on all patients of the practices which are instructed to take on the additional workload. I can’t speak for England, but in Wales when services extra to the routine GP workload are required, they are commissioned as an additional service, with a specific budget, and practices are invited to submit tenders for the provision. This is done routinely for prisons, nursing homes, long stay mental health units etc. I would have thought that they should be doing something similar for all asylum seeker hotels etc.
They have a dedicated GP ,practice Nurses, and low and behold they've found a Dentist.
Glorianny
Just wondering, Can we have our money back? £1.6 billion given away for a barge which isn't fit for purpose.
More pertinently perhaps, can we have the money back we are shovelling to Macron? Or at the very least, stop paying the French and put these HUGE amounts to better use.
I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.
Yes, and they would get transport to the hospital too if they became ill.
They have a dedicated GP ,practice Nurses, and low and behold they've found a Dentist.
Oh, can we tell the worried Gransnetter whose 11 year DGC can't get a dental appointment?
Or people forced to pull out thei own teeth with pliers?
Where did this dentist appear from?
They're like gold dust!!
Do we know who has been paid for this barge?
www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1326652-11-year-old-has-not-seen-Dentist-for-over-12-months
Is it any wonder people get upset?
Callistemon21
www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1326652-11-year-old-has-not-seen-Dentist-for-over-12-months
Is it any wonder people get upset?
Refugees are not at fault here!
Freya5
Casdon
I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.
However, the GP issue is a really serious one, and will inevitably impact on all patients of the practices which are instructed to take on the additional workload. I can’t speak for England, but in Wales when services extra to the routine GP workload are required, they are commissioned as an additional service, with a specific budget, and practices are invited to submit tenders for the provision. This is done routinely for prisons, nursing homes, long stay mental health units etc. I would have thought that they should be doing something similar for all asylum seeker hotels etc.They have a dedicated GP ,practice Nurses, and low and behold they've found a Dentist.
I’ve found it.
nhsdorset.nhs.uk/health-care-for-the-residents-of-bibby-stockholm/
It is a commissioned service of the type I mentioned, so a local practice will win the tender to provide the service without impacting on local residents. Just to emphasise, this is the norm for additional services, the asylum seekers aren’t getting a better service than any other commissioned service recipients in hospitals, nursing homes, prisons etc.
GrannyGravy Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford is 16 miles away, which is nearer than my nearest hospital.
growstuff
GrannyGravy Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford is 16 miles away, which is nearer than my nearest hospital.
I know where Broomfield Hospital is growstuff , I was merely pointing out where the nearest one was, and that it was a Cottage Hospital
Primrose53
If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.
It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.
Because it is a simple process to test and clear premises and this should have been done before anyone was moved on board. But I suppose they had a photo opportunity and a front page to fill, so they didn't check. Which makes them "hopeless, incompetent and heartless"
Primrose53
If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.
It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.
Any excuse to bash the government Primrose, any excuse.
Fleurpepper
Callistemon21
www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1326652-11-year-old-has-not-seen-Dentist-for-over-12-months
Is it any wonder people get upset?Refugees are not at fault here!
I did not say they were did I?
Read my post again.
My club had Legionella in the water tanks and it was closed for several days (more than a week, I think) for a clean out. It's deadly for some people.
Germanshepherdsmum
Primrose53
If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.
It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.Any excuse to bash the government Primrose, any excuse.
They also need to find the source of the bacteria, it could be in the pipes coming onto the barge, in which case any other outlets the pipes serve need to be tested.
It is, but it is preventable through regular checks and maintenance.
Any Facilities Manager should know that and it should be part of a planned maintenance programme.
Grantanow
My club had Legionella in the water tanks and it was closed for several days (more than a week, I think) for a clean out. It's deadly for some people.
Sorry my previous post was in response to Grantanow
GrannyGravy13
Germanshepherdsmum
Primrose53
If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.
It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.Any excuse to bash the government Primrose, any excuse.
They also need to find the source of the bacteria, it could be in the pipes coming onto the barge, in which case any other outlets the pipes serve need to be tested.
I said that 😀
Sorry Callistemon21 I am multi tasking, and badly 🤣
Many years ago a friend caught Legionella walking past an hotel in Leicester Square. She was asked whether she had been to that hotel, which she hadn't, but she'd breathed in the air being extracted from the kitchens as she walked past.
GrannyGravy13
growstuff
GrannyGravy Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford is 16 miles away, which is nearer than my nearest hospital.
I know where Broomfield Hospital is growstuff , I was merely pointing out where the nearest one was, and that it was a ^Cottage Hospital^
But that's no worse than it is for anybody in this part of Essex. I don't see hospital provision as a problem. In any case, Braintree Community Hospital is due to receive one of the government's brand new diagnostic centres.
I expect the wretched human rights lawyers, paid by legal aid, will use this as another excuse why their ‘clients’ should not be placed on the barge.
It makes me so cross that we are paying millions to France to stop these boats yet still they come. The government is thwarted at every turn in trying to cope with the huge numbers turning up here, but the barge did seem to be a cheaper way of housing these migrants.
It’s impossible to overestimate just how stressful this issue must be for the government, but paying six million pounds A DAY for hotel accommodation is not sustainable.
If only the Rwanda plan could go ahead, there’s every chance that could act as a sufficient deterrent.
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