‘Grandad’s Pride’. Really?

I remember when the internet was young, people came together and created this wonderful place to store and share information

Now we have people running around with their bottoms on fire believing any nonsense someone shares and amazing websites like Wikipedia are dying due to lack of funds

Reminds me of that meme that went around warning everyone about the chemical H2O being in the water.... The amount of people who believed it was hilarious

Obviously { it is possible that there may be } children at school (who) have gay, lesbian and trans parents or other friends and family members so it is good to have inclusivity and diversity

I am not aware that my children or grandchildren or indeed I at an early age, attached any importance to sexuality.
Two mummies, two daddies , one parent, in some cases no parents but grandparents, should be viewed as normal, nothing to make a fuss about, move on, nothing to see here.
Why must everything be shoved in our faces, and a song and dance made? And why the association with bondage? Gay men and women I may know do what they like in the privacy of their own home - not for illustration on a book for under-4’s

Sexuality is who you love, it has nothing to do with sex, the act

Foxygloves

Obviously { it is possible that there may be } children at school (who) have gay, lesbian and trans parents or other friends and family members so it is good to have inclusivity and diversity

I am not aware that my children or grandchildren or indeed I at an early age, attached any importance to sexuality.
Two mummies, two daddies , one parent, in some cases no parents but grandparents, should be viewed as normal, nothing to make a fuss about, move on, nothing to see here.
Why must everything be shoved in our faces, and a song and dance made? And why the association with bondage? Gay men and women I may know do what they like in the privacy of their own home - not for illustration on a book for under-4’s

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My dear friend was brought up by her Mum and an Auntie (no relation).
We just accepted it as it was, it was only when I was older I realised they were a loving couple.
I was very fond of them both.

Oreo

rafichagran

If children dont understand the erotic and sexualised depitions, why show it to kids of 4 who would not understand it. It was the teacher who said this and defended it.
I would not want my 4 year old soon to be reception Grandaughter reading that. There is so many other good books she can read.

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It’s just urrrrgh!
Schools have been brainwashed to show any old crap that’s deemed ‘trending’ and just go along with it.
Be kind! Diversity! What rubbish.

I spent today with my niece and her kids. She doesn’t approve of much they are being taught at school but knows if she says anything against their teachers they will probably go and say “my Mum said …..” so she keeps quiet but has to bite her tongue.

She has to threaten her Dad to keep quiet too because he says what he thinks.

nightowl

There are two illustrations showing a map that say MAP. You obviously think they are innocent VS, but I don’t. I don’t think Harry Woodgate is so naive that they don’t know the connotations of the acronym MAP in capital letters.

I have to say a lot of this is new to me as well but I’m disturbed by it.

I’m with you on this nightowl. It is disturbing.

All the lovely things you could write for 4 year old kids and people have to fill their heads with stuff like this.

I give thanks that I was brought up on lovely stories, fairy tales and adventure stories. So did my kids come to think of it.

Lots of children go to Pride

People should go before they judge it, you would be welcomed

VioletSky

Lots of children go to Pride

People should go before they judge it, you would be welcomed

They go to Pride because adults take them not through choice.

We have had a huge street fair in our city for several years but the last couple of years it has been taken over by Pride and it just seems an excuse to me to walk around in your underwear, showing as much bum and boobs as possible. They’re just exhibitionists but they have spoiled the event for many.

It used to be street performers, food stalls, craft stalls, good music and a lovely atmosphere. This year it was men in black leather mini shorts pulled up so tight they were obscene with vests with baggy armholes so they can show off their pierced nipples.

It was gross to be honest and I doubt if we will bother going again.

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I hadn’t heard of this book, so just looked it up on Amazon. Here are some of the illustrations -

If it isn't for you, it isn't for you

But we don't need to judge

Lots of children go to Pride
They go to Pride because adults take them not through choice.

This.

It has changed recently, Primrose.

But we don't need to judge
Yes we do. We need to judge what is appropriate for infants.

Children go lots of places with parents

I know. 😂😂😂

I'm a parent
And a grandparent

VioletSky

Children go lots of places with parents

Is this meant to be a profound utterance VioletSky or what?
If we are talking inanities you could add
“There are also places parents go to without their children “

Or places children go to without their parents.

Although I think parents need to be more aware than ever of how their children might be brainwashed.

What is wrong with taking them to pride?

What is right?

Inclusivity, diversity, representing their own families or supporting others

VioletSky

Inclusivity, diversity, representing their own families or supporting others

All of which small children do not understand.

Of course they do

It's actually their default if adults don't teach them otherwise

merlotgran

VioletSky

Inclusivity, diversity, representing their own families or supporting others

All of which small children do not understand.

Mentioning in passing that yes, Sophie has two Mums or two Dads as nothing to be surprised about, if the question arises, is one thing.

Books about Grandad wearing bondage with his same-sex partner leering suggestively at him as if they both are in ecstasy - no.

In fact, nursery teacher showing a book with Mummy in bondage with Daddy leering suggestively at her is an absolute no-no as well.

Anyone who thinks this is appropriate should not be in charge of small children.

Did you actually look at the book?

Because that's not what it is

So when do GNers think inclusivity should be taught? After a child has picked up enough prejudices and is beginning to put them into practice?
It's a story. It encourages children to realise difference is something which doesn't have to divide us. It promotes community and community actions.
I don't know what harm could be caused by it.

It should be something which is not particularly taught at 4 but, if the subject arises, dealt with in a practical and kind way.

Why should it be a subject which requires teaching to infants?
The will accept same-sex families as just another family if a big deal is not made out of it.

It's not teaching, it's a social story

Literally every children's book is