Gransnet forums

News & politics

The very sad case of Sara Sharif

(152 Posts)

GNHQ have commented on this thread. Read here.

maddyone Wed 23-Aug-23 11:20:27

I’ve been very upset and unsettled reading and hearing about this poor little girl. Found dead in her home, with historic bruises and injuries, the family known to both police and Social Services, with her father, step mother, and five siblings having fled to Pakistan, where police are trying to locate the family.
Her mother was Polish, but she lived with her father. Her mother was only allowed to see her twice in the last four years.
I’m so disturbed by this case. So many unanswered questions. I wonder if the questions will ever be answered. Poor little mite.

Iam64 Wed 13-Sep-23 15:37:35

Good.

Urmstongran Wed 13-Sep-23 16:34:17

Well done Pakistani police!

eazybee Wed 13-Sep-23 17:28:47

Under arrest I hope.
But what is to become of the four (?) remaining children?
How familiar are they with Pakistan?
Do they have any responsible relatives to care for them?
What will happen to them if the family gain control?
What a nightmare.

maddyone Wed 13-Sep-23 19:13:36

I’m so pleased the three adults are returning to the UK, in business class on Emirates, according to the BBC news this evening. It was stated that they were not under arrest. I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to little Sara as I think it unlikely these three will be forthcoming with the truth.

Iam64 Wed 13-Sep-23 19:41:18

We don’t have the detail but, as these children were born here they may be British citizens. The paternal grandfather’s poor cooperation with authorities in Pakistan may help prevent him gaining custody
We don’t have details of Sara’s death but we do know she suffered extensive abuse over a period of time. There’s enough information imo to say these children should return to the UK to allow proper assessment of their needs

Jaxjacky Wed 13-Sep-23 21:18:20

The father, stepmother and uncle have been arrested.

Jaxjacky Wed 13-Sep-23 21:18:59

Sorry..
On suspicion of murder.

Callistemon21 Wed 13-Sep-23 21:20:44

Here or in Pakistan?

I did wonder if they were coming back on their own or escorted.
Haven't seen the news today.

maddyone Wed 13-Sep-23 23:48:53

Were they arrested when they arrived in Britain? I didn’t see any news after the six o clock bulletin and so I don’t know if they’ve arrived here yet. I was talking to my grandchildren and daughter in New Zealand for an hour when the evening news would have been on and so missed any possible updates.

welbeck Thu 14-Sep-23 01:32:46

now that people have been arrested in connection with this matter, i think we should be careful not to make any prejudicial comments.

BlueBelle Thu 14-Sep-23 07:30:11

They were put into handcuffs as soon as the plane landed maddy

eazybee Thu 14-Sep-23 10:30:20

They were arrested on the plane when it landed in Britain.
It is the thought of that little girl lying alone and dead in that house that is so disturbing.

Callistemon21 Thu 14-Sep-23 10:31:58

welbeck

now that people have been arrested in connection with this matter, i think we should be careful not to make any prejudicial comments.

👍

maddyone Thu 14-Sep-23 10:42:13

Thank you BlueBelle.
I agree we shouldn’t make any prejudicial comments, but I think we can comment generally.
I’m wondering what will happen to the other children who are left behind in Pakistan. I’m hoping that arrangements can be made for their return to the UK very soon because they will be very disturbed by the disruption to their usual lives and routines.

pascal30 Fri 15-Sep-23 09:50:32

thank goodness those horrible people have been charged with murder.. poor little girl to think of all she suffered..

maddyone Fri 15-Sep-23 10:35:56

Yes, we’re told they’re appearing in court later today. They’ll be remanded in custody until the case comes to court.

ixion Fri 15-Sep-23 10:58:07

I'm not being crass here, but I just wonder how, if Sara died in the family home, anyone could arrange a dramatic departure with five children while the poor little one lay dead?
We all know what it's like trying to get small children organised for a holiday - clothes, cuddlies, precious toys, entertainment for long flights ...
How could all this be gathered together without (some of the) 5 children realising something was amiss? Did none of them ask where Sara was and why she wasn't coming with them?

I am desperately sorry for the poor child.

Baggs Fri 15-Sep-23 11:01:25

I’m so disturbed by this case. So many unanswered questions. I wonder if the questions will ever be answered

Quoting from your OP, maddyone. Some years ago I read a very interesting book – from the field of evolutionary psychology, I believe – called The Truth about Cinderella: A Darwinian View of Parental Love by Martin Daly and Margo Wilson.

While it in no way excuses vile behaviour, it does up to a point, explain it (or in your words "answer questions") in Darwinian terms. I found it interesting. I thought of it as soon as I saw the news item and this thread.

maddyone Fri 15-Sep-23 11:04:07

Might be an interesting read Baggs. I’ll have a look on Amazon.

Callistemon21 Fri 15-Sep-23 11:11:09

We all know what it's like trying to get small children organised for a holiday - clothes, cuddlies, precious toys, entertainment for long flights ...

ixion I've never forgotten neighbours we had years ago who just took off, did a moonlight flit. We think she realised that another neighbour and I were on to her because she was physically abusing the children, one strange injury after another. We were going to contact the NSPCC. They just must have stuffed a few things into bags and gone.

Delila Fri 15-Sep-23 11:15:51

People who leave behind, alone in the house, a dead or dying child, probably don’t think about niceties like cuddly toys and entertainment for the journey.

Oreo Fri 15-Sep-23 11:34:32

Delila

People who leave behind, alone in the house, a dead or dying child, probably don’t think about niceties like cuddly toys and entertainment for the journey.

Exactly.
They were on the run.
Hope true justice will be done now and that the little girl has a better life in the afterworld.

Iam64 Fri 15-Sep-23 11:46:21

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

Caleo Fri 15-Sep-23 11:47:35

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

LouGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 15-Sep-23 17:58:37

Evening everyone.

As individuals have been charged in this case, we would ask that you don’t speculate. You may not be aware, but such posts could be considered contempt of court.

According to gov.uk you might be in contempt of court if you speak publicly or post on social media. For example, you should not:

say whether you think a person is guilty or innocent
refer to someone’s previous convictions
name someone the judge has allowed to be anonymous, even if you did not know this
name victims, witnesses and offenders under 18
name sex crime victims
share any evidence or facts about a case that the judge has said cannot be made public

Please do report any posts that you believe to be breaking our Talk Guidelines - we're always happy to take a look.