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Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

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RosesandLilac Mon 04-Sept-23 08:29:16

meron152.substack.com/p/prince-harry-the-trauma-exhibitionist
I came across this article posted on MN.
It strikes me as very perceptive as Harry yet again drags up his mother’s death at the Invictus Games.
It’s so inappropriate and disrespectful to those thousands of injured servicemen and their relatives that an over-privileged, extremely wealthy individual constantly turns the subject to himself.

M0nica Mon 04-Sept-23 17:32:48

Glorianny One comes to mind, a boy, the same age as Harry, first his mother tried to persuade all her children to commit suicide and when that failed, she killed the youger. That family also had a very complex family situation before and afer the event.

M0nica Mon 04-Sept-23 17:30:29

Glorianny Many have done far worse, seen their mothers raped and killed. I ma not suggesting that it was a pleasant experience, but there are plenty equally dreadful experiencess other children have associated with the death of a parent

You are surprising defender for a member of the Royal family

Mollygo Mon 04-Sept-23 17:30:08

Allsorts
If he was interested in mental health, he could work to help them, f havent his money or no need to ever work. He wouldn’t last two day without his families money. Does he not realise how very offensive he is.
So could the rest of his family. But you will struggle to find anything they have established and stuck to.
William does go on about his own mental helth. Try Googling him and mental health. Since 2017 he's spoken about it almost every year. Funny how that's OK isn't it?

The RF are good at making noise and opening things, not good for much else.

IYO

None of them spend their own money so why pick on Harry?

. Evidence of that Glorianny?

Reminds me of another argument you use that defends someone for what he does because others aren’t without blame.

WellsRose Mon 04-Sept-23 17:25:14

@callistemom21 what a nasty comment. He would still be married to his first wife Linda if she hadn't died of breast cancer. Has he ever claimed to be a paragon of virtue unlike Charles who is the Head of a Church.

Anniebach Mon 04-Sept-23 17:25:07

It troubled Harry

tickingbird Mon 04-Sept-23 17:22:57

Dodi Fayed was black?? Who knew?

NotSpaghetti Mon 04-Sept-23 17:06:42

I suppose, Glorianny, we are talking about him again because of
RosesandLilac's thread about an article - which I thought was interesting incidentally.

Callistemon21 Mon 04-Sept-23 17:05:36

WellsRose

Ilovecheese

I don't understand this unpleasantness about a man you have never met and who has no influence on your lives. The same nasty remarks repeated over and over again.

I think it's because we are brainwashed into thinking this family are up on a pedestal (chosen by god apparently) and are so much more important than they deserve adulation and wealth. The whole 'never complain, never explain' means they're shrouded in mystery.
Harry has talked and shown them up for what they are. A dysfunctional family which is full of very average people.

It's interesting comparing them to Paul McCartney, he's a wealthy man as is Charles but he earnt his through talent,hard work and determination, Charles achievement was to be born. Paul was also a hands on and loving dad even taking his kids on tour with him. Charles sent his newly bereaved sons off to boarding school.

😂

Oh yes, that paragon, the twice engaged, thrice married pop star Paul McCartney who has told us all about his drug use which enabled him to see God!!

At least he's vegetarian. 😃

Anniebach Mon 04-Sept-23 16:54:13

Yes he constantly lies and since his marriage has used the memory of his mother so much.

lemsip Mon 04-Sept-23 16:52:08

Ilovecheese

I don't understand this unpleasantness about a man you have never met and who has no influence on your lives. The same nasty remarks repeated over and over again.

read them all then did you!

Jaberwok Mon 04-Sept-23 16:50:56

The trouble with Harry is that he lies so much, perhaps he always has and the Palace covered it up to present the happy to lucky chap we all liked so much. The British press spilled the beans about him being in Afghanistan! No they didn't, it was an American article picked up by a Australian woman's magazine. The press weren't concerned about the injured and dead in Afghanistan. Well, that is a blatant disgraceful lie which has been well and truly disproved. No one to help him or talk to him? Interview in 2017 where he praises his brother for advising him to seek help! And so it goes on! He tells such obvious lies, so easily disproved! I find him quite awful, and his cruelty to the late Queen with his lies and refusal to see him when she was dying absolutely appalling and unforgivable .

WellsRose Mon 04-Sept-23 16:47:34

Ilovecheese

I don't understand this unpleasantness about a man you have never met and who has no influence on your lives. The same nasty remarks repeated over and over again.

I think it's because we are brainwashed into thinking this family are up on a pedestal (chosen by god apparently) and are so much more important than they deserve adulation and wealth. The whole 'never complain, never explain' means they're shrouded in mystery.
Harry has talked and shown them up for what they are. A dysfunctional family which is full of very average people.

It's interesting comparing them to Paul McCartney, he's a wealthy man as is Charles but he earnt his through talent,hard work and determination, Charles achievement was to be born. Paul was also a hands on and loving dad even taking his kids on tour with him. Charles sent his newly bereaved sons off to boarding school.

timetogo2016 Mon 04-Sept-23 16:34:14

He changed when M came into his life.
He still has a father and should be grateful,yet between him and M he is distancing himself from his family,i believe it is her doing.

Ilovecheese Mon 04-Sept-23 16:02:13

I don't understand this unpleasantness about a man you have never met and who has no influence on your lives. The same nasty remarks repeated over and over again.

Glorianny Mon 04-Sept-23 15:46:06

Allsorts

If he was interested in mental health, he could work to help them, f havent his money or no need to ever work. He wouldn’t last two day without his families money. Does he not realise how very offensive he is.

So could the rest of his family. But you will struggle to find anything they have established and stuck to.
William does go on about his own mental helth. Try Googling him and mental health. Since 2017 he's spoken about it almost every year. Funny how that's OK isn't it?
The RF are good at making noise and opening things, not good for much else. None of them spend their own money so why pick on Harry?

Joseann Mon 04-Sept-23 15:32:35

Paul Mccartney
My mother’s death broke my dad up. That was the worst thing for me, hearing my dad cry. I’d never heard him cry before. It was a terrible blow to the family. You grow up real quick, because you never expect to hear your parents crying. You expect to see women crying, or kids in the playground, or even yourself crying – and you can explain all that. But when it’s your dad, then you know something’s really wrong and it shakes your faith in everything. But I was determined not to let it affect me. I carried on. I learnt to put a shell around me at that age. There was none of this sitting at home crying – that would be recommended now, but not then.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Sept-23 15:18:28

Oh I didn't know that's why he wrote 'Let it be' Joseann what a lovely tribute. I shall listen to it with 'new ears' so to speak from now on.

What's ridiculous for me Glorianny is H's obsession. Does he really think there's anyone living who doesn't know the tragedy of his mother's death?

Anniebach Mon 04-Sept-23 15:18:27

Harry was not forced to walk behind the coffin, he said he wanted to because William wanted to.

He also said his mother was murdered because she was with a man who was not white . Seems he had forgotten she was with
Hasnet Khan for 2 years. Before Fayed.

Allsorts Mon 04-Sept-23 15:14:39

If he was interested in mental health, he could work to help them, f havent his money or no need to ever work. He wouldn’t last two day without his families money. Does he not realise how very offensive he is.

Joseann Mon 04-Sept-23 15:13:18

I'm guessing Harry had far more people to support him - family, counsellors, teachers, chaplains etc - than anyone in the world.

Joseann Mon 04-Sept-23 15:11:43

The biggest struggle for me was no one around me really could help. I didn’t have that support structure, that network, or that expert advice to identify what was actually going on with me.
Why say anything? Again! And again!

Glorianny Mon 04-Sept-23 15:02:07

But he hasn't given another speech, he hasn't done anything apart rom an introduction to the series which was filmed in 2022. For some reason the British media ignore the series focus on Harry and GNers jump on the bandwagon, He appears briefly. There are 5 episodes each focussing on a different athlete. Why are you all so obsessed about a small part of this and one man's speech? It's ridiculous..

Joseann Mon 04-Sept-23 14:57:44

MrsThatcher

Joseann

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

I didn’t know that about ‘Let it be’. I love that song. What a wonderful tribute to his Mother. Thanks for sharing that Joseann.

Yes, Mrs Thatcher, I think we automatically associate Mother Mary with the Virgin Mary. I guess we interpret it as we choose.

Mollygo Mon 04-Sept-23 14:55:38

Harry should have stuck to being the founder of the Invictus Games, an idea he took from the Warrior Games.
It was a worthwhile effort and has benefited those injured in warfare and helped to give them a purpose in becoming athletes.

All Harry’s diverting of focus onto him does nothing to improve things for the Invictus competitors, rather it detracts from the games and their participants.
A figurehead who has faced trauma and come through stronger would be better than one who is constantly in the news reliving his trauma in a personal pity party.

At least he didn’t have to go into the care system when he lost his mother. We none of us truly know whether he wanted to to walk behind the coffin with his family or whether he would have complained about not getting closure if he had been refused the opportunity.

Rather than expecting sympathy for their injuries and trauma, the athletes have had to fight to overcome them in order to compete instead of bemoaning their misfortunes.

Harry could learn a lesson from them.

MrsThatcher Mon 04-Sept-23 14:55:34

Joseann

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

I didn’t know that about ‘Let it be’. I love that song. What a wonderful tribute to his Mother. Thanks for sharing that Joseann.