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Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

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RosesandLilac Mon 04-Sep-23 08:29:16

meron152.substack.com/p/prince-harry-the-trauma-exhibitionist
I came across this article posted on MN.
It strikes me as very perceptive as Harry yet again drags up his mother’s death at the Invictus Games.
It’s so inappropriate and disrespectful to those thousands of injured servicemen and their relatives that an over-privileged, extremely wealthy individual constantly turns the subject to himself.

MrsThatcher Mon 04-Sep-23 08:33:39

He’s a complete self obsessed moron.

Grantanow Mon 04-Sep-23 08:39:57

Over privileged.

lemsip Mon 04-Sep-23 08:46:28

this has been all over the news for past week, surprised it's found it's way here via mumsnet.

M0nica Mon 04-Sep-23 08:53:10

Yes, but he has a living to earn and its his only saleable asset!

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Sep-23 08:53:22

I agree, a perceptive article. The constant 'woe is me' rhetoric is tiresome and totally inappropriate in a speech for the Invictus Games, where all those taking part have overcome life changing injuries acquired while serving their country.

25Avalon Mon 04-Sep-23 09:13:34

Very interesting article. Harry is stuck in this rut and I don’t see Megan helping him out of it. Perhaps she is unable to. I don’t think it’s just about commercial gain. He has become obsessive about perceived wrongs, often incorrectly remembered and just can’t help himself, and neither can anyone else. He could have a lovely life if he could just let go. One wonders where it will all end.

ParlorGames Mon 04-Sep-23 09:19:59

I might be incorrect but didn't all this 'poor me, poor me' attitude start when MM came into his life?

Shelflife Mon 04-Sep-23 09:26:35

The situation is now beyond repair. He is so damaged and is married to a woman who is also damaged. He has turned his back on family and the
' institution ' yet takes royal titles for his children! He is stuck in a cycle of self pity , unable to see his way out. I do have sympathy for him and look back to the fun loving cheeky prince - so sad! Avalon , where indeed will it end !?

Sparklefizz Mon 04-Sep-23 09:32:46

ParlorGames

I might be incorrect but didn't all this 'poor me, poor me' attitude start when MM came into his life?

You're right. It did.

Redhead56 Mon 04-Sep-23 09:42:06

I agree the poor poor me only came about when MM entered his life. They make a good pair both self obsessed victims and attention seekers.

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 09:42:15

I suspect many will still find his acknowledgement valuable. Perhaps not if you are of the "just suck it up and get on with things" persuasion, but many of the people he is speaking to will have had their own battles with trauma and survival, and recognising that there is an alternative, that you don't have to do the traditional stiff upper lip, even if your family don't support you, will be meaningful for them. Maybe Harry knows his audience better than most do.

V3ra Mon 04-Sep-23 09:45:19

Harry is stuck in this rut and I don’t see Megan helping him out of it. Perhaps she is unable to.

Does she even want to?

Those two had the world at their feet and could have done so much good on a global scale.
That would have been a truly fitting tribute to Diana.

Anniebach Mon 04-Sep-23 09:45:43

When MM was suicidal! she said he found her on the floor

Harry traumatised after war ! memories of his mother’s death
ended up in a foetus position on the floor

Sparklefizz Mon 04-Sep-23 09:46:28

Rosesand Lilac An excellent article - thank you for the link.

merlotgran Mon 04-Sep-23 09:46:47

I started to read the article but I’m so bored by it all that I gave up. They seem to be doing a lot more apart now and pictures of them together at a Beyoncé concert showed how bored and disinterested Harry was. His facial expressions always speak volumes.

By contrast, an article about Meghan’s ex husband detailed how happy, successful, and wealthy he now is.

Meghan may have encouraged this misery fest but I bet she’s tiring of it now.

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 09:50:12

ParlorGames

I might be incorrect but didn't all this 'poor me, poor me' attitude start when MM came into his life?

Absolutely right. Until then he was happily binge drinking and drugging himself, obviously he should just have carried on doing that.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Sep-23 10:02:38

To begin with I'm sure many found his acknowledgement helpful, but I wonder how helpful it is to others who don't have the access to the various therapies H's had, his wealth and privileged lifestyle to know that despite these advantaged, he's still no further on.

IMO it matters not who his audience is and I don't think he ever takes that into account. He's a 'one trick pony' now which is a great shame when he once had so much to offer.

NotSpaghetti Mon 04-Sep-23 10:06:29

This is the bit that made me think:

I’ve never heard a considered and nuanced conversation from either Harry or Meghan about strained mental health services, socio-economically deprived communities, lack of access to services, and waiting lists that leave people behind.

I haven't noticed this either. But of course being in America means there is a many tiered health system and that is accepted as normal.

And yes, if he wants to serve people, ordinary people, then the Michelle Obama quote fits in quite well.

Public service, it's a bright, sharp, hot spotlight [and] the thing that I always keep in mind is that none of this is about us in public service. It's about the people that we serve; I always try to push the light back out and focus it on the folks that we are actually here to serve.

This is what I took from the article, RosesandLilac.

Aveline Mon 04-Sep-23 10:34:57

Michelle Obama is spot on

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 10:40:23

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Sep-23 10:44:44

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games is for H, another opportunity to talk about his own issues.

He started the games which is something to be immensely proud of, but they're not about him. they're about the brave ex service men and women who compete.

fancythat Mon 04-Sep-23 10:44:58

Glorianny

I suspect many will still find his acknowledgement valuable. Perhaps not if you are of the "just suck it up and get on with things" persuasion, but many of the people he is speaking to will have had their own battles with trauma and survival, and recognising that there is an alternative, that you don't have to do the traditional stiff upper lip, even if your family don't support you, will be meaningful for them. Maybe Harry knows his audience better than most do.

But there is the in between part.
Doesnt have to be either stiff upper lift, or the things people are posting about that he is doing.

Having said that, he lost his mum. And his dad maybe not the best to help him.
And personally dont think Meghan is the best person to help him either.

But he does have access to money and people to help.

silverlining48 Mon 04-Sep-23 10:48:26

It’s been the anniversary of Diana’s death this week so it will be on her sons’ minds.
Childhood trauma can be life long and I can’t be the only person who remembers the funeral .
I am not particularly a fan of the royal family but don’t understand the constant criticism and vitriol from so many towards this man and his wife. It really doesn’t affect us. Ignore.

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 11:08:46

Smileless2012

^What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games^ is for H, another opportunity to talk about his own issues.

He started the games which is something to be immensely proud of, but they're not about him. they're about the brave ex service men and women who compete.

Which is what the documentary is about, but where are the comments about them? It isn't Harry who is focussing on the wrong things, it is the British Press. The documentary was released on 30th August. It was made much earlier so the speech about his trauma could have been recorded at any time and is anyway just a small part of the programme. Why aren't people commenting on the content? Perhaps because it means giving Harry some credit, and acknowledging the dreadful damage done to people.