Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

Have to try harder WellsRose - a lot harder.

RW
I loved showing off my baby to close friends and family but it was my choice.

Are you so intimate with the Royal Family that you know showing off the baby wasn’t their choice?

WellsRose

Why do the public need to see the baby. They survived the Queen not displaying Charles on the hospital steps.

Of course not. And she didn’t have her babies in hospital.

WellsRose

I don't keep it mentioning it. I said it once, then explained why I felt it was relevant once in reply to comment..

That’s OK. You keep on if you feel the need.

I don't keep it mentioning it. I said it once, then explained why I felt it was relevant once in reply to comment..

Do keep mentioning it RW. However distasteful it appears to others, if that’s what you need to do to prove your point, go ahead.

Germanshepherdsmum

Saying something twice is not ‘constantly repeating’ myself.

Well that's not true is it. It's three times you told me how you feel and I gave my explanation the first time.

Saying something twice is not ‘constantly repeating’ myself.

Germanshepherdsmum

Using the death of a baby to support your argument is beneath contempt.

As I've already twice I think it is relevant and why I think. You do not have to agree but I will not back down. What are you.hoping to achieve constantly repeating yourself ?

Using the death of a baby to support your argument is beneath contempt.

Didn't the French Queen have to give.birth in front.of the whole of the.court?

I.now have a vision of being the.poor woman having Suella Braverman of resent whislt she gives birth.

It was tradition, ever since the time of Mary of Modena, to prevent unpleasant rumours circulating that the baby had been switched.

eazybee

The Queen gave birth three times at Buckingham Palace and once at Clarence House. She was the first Queen not to have to give birth with the Home Secretary being present, which rather overshadows standing on the steps for a few minutes in front of the press.

How awful.

The Queen gave birth three times at Buckingham Palace and once at Clarence House. She was the first Queen not to have to give birth with the Home Secretary being present, which rather overshadows standing on the steps for a few minutes in front of the press.

Germanshepherdsmum

I can recall two, not ‘many’, people who have spoken of their bereavements here. Both were relevant to the thread. Your mention was not. It was tossed in irrelevantly and distastefully. There are others here who could, but don’t, speak of the loss of their own babies. But as you are interested only in H&M threads you don’t know about them.

No it is relevant to me. It is my reason for thinking that any woman should be able to give without the press outside.

I am reporting your comment because you yet again making snide remarks about my posting history which really irrelevant. I go on the threads that I want. End of discussion.

I can recall two, not ‘many’, people who have spoken of their bereavements here. Both were relevant to the thread. Your mention was not. It was tossed in irrelevantly and distastefully. There are others here who could, but don’t, speak of the loss of their own babies. But as you are interested only in H&M threads you don’t know about them.

Mollygo

RW
I don't expect a woman who has given birth to parade around like a performing seal for me

Lucky for you that they didn’t do that then. You wouldn’t have seen that even if you were interested, but since you weren’t, you’ll never know.
Most people, royal or not are delighted to show off their new baby. No one I’ve seen parades in the manner you describe, or did you just make that up?

Come over to Mumsnet, there's usually a threaded going where the new parents have told family that why don't want any visitors for several weeks as they want to bond with the baby. I loved showing off my baby to close friends and family but it was my choice. I didn't have racist comments about my baby either.

RW
I don't expect a woman who has given birth to parade around like a performing seal for me

Lucky for you that they didn’t do that then. You wouldn’t have seen that even if you were interested, but since you weren’t, you’ll never know.
Most people, royal or not are delighted to show off their new baby. No one I’ve seen parades in the manner you describe, or did you just make that up?

Germanshepherdsmum

So you didn’t watch the news and see the pictures? That’s surprising.

If you recall, I said I assumed that those having photos taken had had straightforward births, unlike some of us. I’m not about to play top trumps as to who amongst us had the worst birth experience. Bringing your cousin’s bereavement into this is unnecessary and distasteful.

So a lot of people on this thread have talked about their bereavement and I'm talking about mine . There is absolutely nothing distasteful about discussing death.As usual you try to twist my words. I'm pointing out why a woman's right to privacy is more than the public's right to see the baby. It is blatantly obvious that I am not playing top trumps.

I think the news was on for one of the Catherine's baby. I can't remember which one.

What has loss of a baby in childbirth to do with photographs
outside the hospital?

So you didn’t watch the news and see the pictures? That’s surprising.

If you recall, I said I assumed that those having photos taken had had straightforward births, unlike some of us. I’m not about to play top trumps as to who amongst us had the worst birth experience. Bringing your cousin’s bereavement into this is unnecessary and distasteful.

My mil's first comment when the picture of Archie appeared was "I expect the Queen is very relieved he's not black". I was gobsmacked. I didn't previously regard mil as racist and up to that point it hadn't occurred to me that anyone would consider this to be a problem

Germanshepherdsmum

Nowadays people’s expectations are very different. This is the age of 24/7 worldwide news. I’m sure you were as interested as everyone else.

No

The only babies I'm interested in are my family and friends. I don't expect a woman who has given birth to parade around like a performing seal for me.

My cousin lost a baby within a few hours of being born, I ended up with a crash team as I'd lost so much blood. A woman's right to privacy far overrides the selfish sectio of the public thatt need to see the top of a baby's head

And bear in mind a tweet had gone out comparing Archie to a chimpanzee a couple of days before. I think Meghan was feeling pretty devastated as even her innocent baby was subjellct to racist abuse

The Queen had home births