We’re rejoining the Horizon programme….

As far as I know a delivery driver on a zero hours contract doesn’t need a degree. Or Erasmus Whitewave. It’s horses for courses.

I don’t look on education as just being for the middle classes. Everyone should have access to the sort of education that allows them to fulfil their true potential. Being able to work and study in other countries is important. At the same time I think apprenticeships are just as important and I don’t think they’re as available as they were.

We do indeed Doodledog it’s just that for most of us, Erasmus doesn’t figure because it’s not relevant. As I say others will be Delighted.

Urmstongran

This will doubtless delight the middle classes.
The working class not so much. Many don’t even register what Erasmus is - if you drive a van, are a plumber or painter and decorator it won’t even cross your mind.

Well not in my experience, they want their children to pursue further education as much as the middle classes if that is what their child wants, and they are very aware of what is or is not on offer.

It is very difficult to class people by employment as you will often find that what is deemed as “working class jobs” often have someone doing so with a university degree. The old assumptions don’t mean anything anymore.

There are plenty of working class scientists Urmstongran DH was working as a delivery driver and I was working as in a local cafe when DD went to university and we had just been rehoused by the council. DD now leads a university research team and her professor is an Essex boy from Canvey Island. She has a lot to say about the damage done to scientific research by Brexit and the loss of Horizon.

I think a lot of working class people want the best for their children.

This will doubtless delight the middle classes.
The working class not so much. Many don’t even register what Erasmus is - if you drive a van, are a plumber or painter and decorator it won’t even cross your mind.

Doodledog

I sincerely hope so.

Erasmus was available to undergrads too, and I taught many lovely students from all over Europe as a result. UK students could apply too, although they tended not to have the language skills to take advantage. Some universities (eg ones in Cyprus) teach in English, however, so they could widen their horizons by going there.

For those not familiar with the Erasmus scheme, it allows students to take a semester (usually half an academic year) in another European university and get the credits towards their home degree.

So did I. In Europe, they all have to study a foreign language, and often two- right up to A'Level- so were all able to join Erasmus in their chosen subject and do very well.

There was always a mismatch of numbers, sadly, because most UK students doing sciences, technology, engineering, IT, and most other subjects, would not be able to take full part due to not knowing the language. DD1 and many friends who were studying German or French as part of their Degree, with International Law, Accounting or Business- were able to go to a Uni in Europe for 1 year and benefited hugely.

Good isn’t it?

I was reading today that bit by bit we are getting closer to Europe.

It is our businesses who could really do with some help.

Blinko

^With a bit of luck we will soon be back in Europe in all but name.^

Bring it on!

Fingers crossed

Doodledog

I sincerely hope so.

Erasmus was available to undergrads too, and I taught many lovely students from all over Europe as a result. UK students could apply too, although they tended not to have the language skills to take advantage. Some universities (eg ones in Cyprus) teach in English, however, so they could widen their horizons by going there.

For those not familiar with the Erasmus scheme, it allows students to take a semester (usually half an academic year) in another European university and get the credits towards their home degree.

Braverman took part in the Erasmus scheme I believe….

Gradually unpicking the Brexit disaster…..

I sincerely hope so.

Erasmus was available to undergrads too, and I taught many lovely students from all over Europe as a result. UK students could apply too, although they tended not to have the language skills to take advantage. Some universities (eg ones in Cyprus) teach in English, however, so they could widen their horizons by going there.

For those not familiar with the Erasmus scheme, it allows students to take a semester (usually half an academic year) in another European university and get the credits towards their home degree.

With a bit of luck we will soon be back in Europe in all but name.

Bring it on!

Hoorah! Not being part of this European joint research progranmme has seriously affected the capacity for British universities to work with research groups in Europe.

It also cost DD her job. She worked for a big British science research centre writing research proposals for Horizon projects so when we pulled out of the Horizon programme, bang went her job.

Not that she is repining. Before she had even worked out her notice, she had applied for and got a much more interesting and better paid job in a different profession and since then has flown.

Now we need the government to find a way ofbecoming part of the Erasmus programme again, so that our post-graduates can benefit from studying elsewhere in Europe and European post graduates can flood back to the UK.

Slowly, slowly, all these disastrous unforeseen (and foreseen) consequences of Brexit are being reversed. With a bit of luck we will soon be back in Europe in all but name.