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The Law of unintended consequences

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Sept-23 10:22:32

Curtaintwitcher

When will they start listening to the people of this country? Politicians are each following their own agenda without considering the wishes of the people. Are they even thinking about the effect all of this immigration is having on communities, not just the native British but the various different cultures of the immigrants. They are all being thrown together into some sort of social soup. There are already incidents of racial tension and it will only get worse.

If the politicians listened to the majority of the public, they would be treating the asylum seekers with a good deal more humanity than is being shown to them at present.

56% of people in the U.K. think that asylum seekers contribute positively to the country, with 54% saying that asylum seekers should be allowed to stay.

The Tories toxic rhetoric is largely rejected by the British public.

Curtaintwitcher Sat 09-Sept-23 10:05:58

When will they start listening to the people of this country? Politicians are each following their own agenda without considering the wishes of the people. Are they even thinking about the effect all of this immigration is having on communities, not just the native British but the various different cultures of the immigrants. They are all being thrown together into some sort of social soup. There are already incidents of racial tension and it will only get worse.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Sept-23 00:27:28

Grantanow

Braverman's job is to keep the immigration 'problem' in the public eye to attract votes for the Tories at the GE, not to solve the 'problem'. The longer the backlog, the higher the cost and money wasted, the more boats, the more squawking about luxury hotels, more looking tough, etc., the more votes from racists, anti-immigrants, BNP members, etc., they will gather in.

The “small boats” are certainly one of the wedges that the Tories are hoping to use - whether it is effective is doubtful.

But the fact is that they have not enacted the illegal immigration bill because of the consequences of the enactment.

Absolutely bizarre and another example of Tory incompetence.

Freya5 Fri 08-Sept-23 21:21:04

Grantanow

Braverman's job is to keep the immigration 'problem' in the public eye to attract votes for the Tories at the GE, not to solve the 'problem'. The longer the backlog, the higher the cost and money wasted, the more boats, the more squawking about luxury hotels, more looking tough, etc., the more votes from racists, anti-immigrants, BNP members, etc., they will gather in.

Oh dear, same old, same old.

Grantanow Fri 08-Sept-23 17:27:16

Braverman's job is to keep the immigration 'problem' in the public eye to attract votes for the Tories at the GE, not to solve the 'problem'. The longer the backlog, the higher the cost and money wasted, the more boats, the more squawking about luxury hotels, more looking tough, etc., the more votes from racists, anti-immigrants, BNP members, etc., they will gather in.

Oopsadaisy1 Thu 07-Sept-23 14:39:21

It’s a pity we can’t raise a petition to get a General Election before the New Year.

I imagine the Labour Party are up in the air about all this?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Sept-23 11:59:28

This could easily be put onto the Tory embarrassment thread, but it is interesting enough to warrant its own thread, and reasonably complicated to need more significant explanation
, so for me it is easier to do so with bullet points

The information was gleaned from The Newsagents.

So.

* The Illegal Immigrants Bill received royal assent towards the end of July.
* This states that people entering the U.K. illegally are no longer considered asylum seekers but illegal immigrants.
* Because those arriving in the small boats and other modes of transport are internationally classed as asylum seekers, the U.K. government has been quite legally able to use the overseas aid budget which amounts to >6 million a day,
* the money for this is managed by Difd, who were more than a little put out to find that money that could be used to help people remain in their own war torn, climate change affected country, was instead being used to pay the hotel bill.
* The Home Office, for ideological reasons had allowed the backlog to rise to an almost unmanageable number.

So here is where Braverman has come totally unstuck - or rather as usual - the tax payer
* the asylum seekers are now classed as criminal illegal immigrants.
* guess whose budget is responsible for paying to house criminals
*The Home Office! Which you might think is poetic justice, until you realise that
* >£6million a day will now be taken away from,
* The police Budget
* Immigration (the irony)
* drugs policy
*counter terrorism etc.
*apparently they were warned continuously of this but refused to listen.
*catching the headlines appears more. Important than good law.
* because of the Law of Unintended Consequences - the illegal immigration law has not yet been acted.