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The “yes” vote in Australia

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maddyone Wed 13-Sept-23 11:52:38

Please let’s not descend into the idea that colonisers are the problem. Those who have moved to Australia have built the country into what it is now, which is successful and rich.
I’m wondering why the indigenous population are apparently, according to what is written here because I have no other knowledge, living in what sounds like squalor and not working? Is this actually the case? I don’t know but I think we should not think those who have made the country into what it now is, are somehow in the wrong. I know the indigenous population were greatly disadvantaged two hundred or so years ago, but I don’t think they are today.
I admit to having a limited knowledge of Australia.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-Sept-23 11:44:40

eazybee

I cannot find an answer to my query: 24 votes out of how many, I presume in their parliament?

Apparently there is the intention of having 24 “voices” to represent the indigenous population.

The big problem as far as I can see is that the colonisers - just as they have done in other countries have crowded the indigenous people out of their own country to the edges and taken away their right of representation.

How these voices are going to operate I’m not clear.

eazybee Wed 13-Sept-23 11:38:47

I cannot find an answer to my query: 24 votes out of how many, I presume in their parliament?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-Sept-23 11:25:42

So what is wrong with giving them a voice in the Australian parliament?

Being under-represented or not represented may have contributed to the problems?

Juliet27 Wed 13-Sept-23 11:07:43

When I’ve visited Australia I’ve noticed that there are small indigenous population areas that look neglected and strewn with discarded items but the owners seem content to live that way and don’t welcome visitors.
When in Alice Springs I was surprised at how many of the indigenous population spend much of the day sitting on the grass in groups drinking.
I know I’ve only visited family and as a tourist for a few weeks at a time over the years but that’s my general observation of some areas.

Katie59 Wed 13-Sept-23 10:49:56

It’s a big issue, the indigenous population has not integrated despite a lot of reforms and this new initiative is not going to make any difference.
Alice Springs has almost become a no go area because crime levels are so high.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-Sept-23 08:21:14

I am interested in any Australian posters and their thought on the yes vote.

I’ve read a bit about it and listened to TRIP which featured it this week.

The vote is about the indigenous population choosing 24 representatives to be able to allow their voices to be heard at national level.

My initial thoughts are “why not?” Given the fact that they only represent 3% of the total population in Australia, and on every single measure have the worst outcomes, from health to education to employment etc.

I suspect that their voices are always drowned out as a result of almost certainly there being a tiny minority (if any) returned to parliament. It can only be a good thing to have a vehicle through which your voice can be heard.