Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

Freya5

Fleurpepper

MaizieD

Joining the euro would be a huge mistake, Fp.

Look what happened to Greece and be very afraid...

We need to be in control of our own sovereign currency.

Even if it is in freefall?

Oh dear, all uk bad, all , europe good. Just been there, price of food is much higher than uk, in Germany anyway. Years ago family advised if we get a vote on having the euro, tell them a big fat no. Thanks whoever said Nein.

Where on earth did I say that?

Of course prices are higher- have you compared salaries and pensions with UK?

Fleurpepper

MaizieD

Joining the euro would be a huge mistake, Fp.

Look what happened to Greece and be very afraid...

We need to be in control of our own sovereign currency.

Even if it is in freefall?

Oh dear, all uk bad, all , europe good. Just been there, price of food is much higher than uk, in Germany anyway. Years ago family advised if we get a vote on having the euro, tell them a big fat no. Thanks whoever said Nein.

Is the pound in free fall? Don't think so. Euro dropped a bit against the dollar early this year.

We will never join the euro. Its dead in the water. Zero appetite for it.

What on earth is the matter with you? Just look at the issues Germany has at present. The supposed power house of the eu. Its in a mess. As is parts of France, Italy, Greece.

Also usa and Canada have similar issues

Just stop with the false and fake nonsense.

It's verging on insane

MaizieD

Joining the euro would be a huge mistake, Fp.

Look what happened to Greece and be very afraid...

We need to be in control of our own sovereign currency.

Even if it is in freefall?

Joining the euro would be a huge mistake, Fp.

Look what happened to Greece and be very afraid...

We need to be in control of our own sovereign currency.

maddyone

MayBee70

I’m bitter and angry because of the racism and xenophobia that was used by the leave campaign and I will never stop being bitter and angry about it.

Please Maybee try to not be bitter and angry because the only person that hurts with the anger is you.
The ship has sailed and we need to get on with the rest of our lives. And be happy.

I am happy. I just have no intention of forgetting about the lies and misinformation that were used (by people that have since been shown to be liars, corrupt and/or disreputable eg Johnson, Bannon, Cummings) to enable leave to win the referendum. I was brought up not to lie and, at my age I’m not prepared to accept that sort of behaviour in people that influence others.

Why should freedom of movement be a sticking point?

I miss it dreadfully...

I wouldnt expect joining the Euro be a sticking point several members have separate currencies, freedom of movement would be hard to swallow by the UK, but who knows what might happen in the next 20 yrs.

With Sterling having lost so so much value, especially against the Dollar and the Swiss Franc- and with further loss still very possible- I'd have thought that joining the Euro could be a blessing. When my mum studied in London in 1932, it was 20 Francs to the Pound. When I came to live in London in 1970. it was exactly 10- made calculations very easy. It recently went down to parity, 1 for 1 and now up a tad to about 1.10. When we bought our current house in 2008, it was almost 2.50!!!

That was just unbelievable before Brexit.

We can never go back to the very advantageous position we were in in 2016, before the fraudulent referendum.

The United Kingdom was one of the most influential members of the world's biggest trading group, with a unique deal - we had a rebate (one of the few good things achieved by Margaret Thatcher ), we were not in Schengen and not in the Euro.

Our position in the EU, as an English speaking nation, made us a uniquely important ally to the USA and the British Commonwealth.

Of course it is clear the Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster. Polls show at least 60% of voters can see that. No country has ever inflicted such damage on itself - making it poorer, less secure and drastically diminishing its influence in the world.

If we are fortunate our erstwhile partners may eventually allow us to be re-admitted, but not on the great terms we previously enjoyed. Remember that brexit has also cost the 27 EU countries a load of time money and needless hassle.

The thousands (not hundreds as reported by the right wing media) of Rejoiners who marched at the weekend did well to remind everyone of our loss, but most realise that the best we can do in the short term is to vote for parties which support ever closer ties with the EU.

Being angry all the time is known to be bad for our health. It is what it is. Look forward and look to the future. We’re not young people, we haven’t got time to waste, we need to enjoy whatever time we have with our families, grandchildren, hobbies and friends.

DiamondLily

I voted to remain but I think rejoining would be untenable. We'd have to adopt the Euro (no thanks) and have much worse conditions.

The best way forward would be a good and mutually beneficial arrangement with the EU.

That’s exactly how I feel. I also voted remain, but the deed is done and we have to move forwards and not continually look backwards.

I voted to remain but I think rejoining would be untenable. We'd have to adopt the Euro (no thanks) and have much worse conditions.

The best way forward would be a good and mutually beneficial arrangement with the EU.

There are always protests of one kind or another, is the BBC supposed to report on every one?

Yes, the Bully rally was important and worrying too.
There was a ULEZ protest at the same time.

The weekend news is usually very brief, but it was probably on BBC News 24.

Furieux ou animés d'espoir, des centaines voire quelques milliers d'europhiles ont manifesté, samedi 23 septembre 2023, à Londres en faveur du retour duRoyaume-Uniau sein de l'Union européenne (UE).
I think Bénédicte Paviot might need to visit Alain Afflelou 👓 (Specsavers equivalent). The above report by his colleagues in France suggests hundreds, maybe a few thousand.

France 24’s UK correspondent, Bénédicte Paviot, who was on the scene, reported: “Tens of thousands of people, who’ve come from all over the United Kingdom, converged here in London in the heart of Westminster.”

France24 reported that Hundreds waving EU flags gathered
In fact it was estimated that there were about 3,000 Rejoin protestors.

There were other protests taking place too so perhaps Bénédicte Paviot thought they were all Rejoin protestors.

Accuracy is important when reporting, as we have learnt.

I didn't think the BBC would cover it Varian because they are not impartial

MayBee70

I’m bitter and angry because of the racism and xenophobia that was used by the leave campaign and I will never stop being bitter and angry about it.

Please Maybee try to not be bitter and angry because the only person that hurts with the anger is you.
The ship has sailed and we need to get on with the rest of our lives. And be happy.

THE BBC has been asked to explain why it has not reported on a large-scale anti-Brexit rally in the centre of London – but has covered a much smaller protest held in the same place at the same time.

Organisers of Saturday’s National Rejoin March (NRM) said it was “scandalous and bizarre” that the BBC had not covered their rally, which was attended by European politicians Guy Verhofstadt and Terry Reintke as well as campaigner Gina Miller.

France 24’s UK correspondent, Bénédicte Paviot, who was on the scene, reported: “Tens of thousands of people, who’ve come from all over the United Kingdom, converged here in London in the heart of Westminster.”

Speaking to the PA news agency, German MEP Reintke said the march showed the UK had “managed to build one of the biggest pro-European movements all across Europe”. On social media, she and the march organisers also claimed there had been tens of thousands present.

Other estimates, such as from Spanish newspaper El Mundo, put the number of attendees in the thousands. El Mundo further noted that the protest "received more coverage in the international media than in the local".

“It is scandalous and bizarre that the BBC are refusing to cover it,” Peter Benson, an NRM spokesperson told The National.

[Brexit] has added considerably to the cost of living crisis and inflation, and consequently higher interest rates. It’s a huge story for the British nation.”

He went on: “It's not just about a march, it's about the cost of living.

“Brexit has made the lives of everybody worse and we are frankly shocked and saddened that a British institutional broadcaster is refusing to cover this story.

“We want to further add that both Sky News and BBC News were in Whitehall and Parliament Square at the same time that our march and rally was going on. They were covering another march of a few hundred people and we didn't get any coverage.

So is that self-censorship by the BBC? We'd love an explanation.”

The other, much smaller protest, was against Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s plan to ban the sale and ownership of American Bully XL dogs, once the breed has been defined.

Video online showed verbal clashes between people at the two concurrent rallies, with one of the Bully XL supporters accusing the Remain campaigners of being "traitors".

Unlike the anti-Brexit demonstration, the dog owners’ rally was covered by the BBC, as were pro-independence marches in Falkirk and Bangor, in Wales.

Edwin Haywood, the author of Slaying Brexit Unicorns, wrote on Twitter/X: “Marches BBC news online covered today: - Scottish independence in Falkirk - Welsh independence in Bangor - Wales 20mph protest in Cardiff - Just Stop Oil in Bristol

“Marches BBC news online made no mention of today: - Anti-Brexit March to Rejoin in London

“Pathetic!”

And Richard Corbett, Labour’s former leader in the European Parliament, wrote: “So not even a brief mention on @BBCNews tonight of the massive #RejoinMarch in London with many 1000s demonstrating to reverse Brexit.
“The people the Tories placed in BBC management have done their job.”

A BBC spokesperson said: “Coverage can depend on a range of factors including how busy the news agenda is on the day and our aim is to reflect a wide range of events and voices.”

www.thenational.scot/news/23810173.anger-bbc-refuse-cover-anti-brexit-rally-london/

No, I wasn't there but I support rejoining the EU. Brexit is an unmitigated disaster and an increasing percentage of the population have realised that, now about 60%. The behaviour of Johnson and the Tories (with some honourable exceptions amongst the more intelligent MPs) has been opportunistic and disgraceful. It will take many years to undo the consequences.

I’m bitter and angry because of the racism and xenophobia that was used by the leave campaign and I will never stop being bitter and angry about it.

Lovetopaint037

I was an adamant remainer but that ship has gone I am afraid. The only way now is renegotiate the trade agreement as best we can. It has to be done in a sensible and diplomatic way unlike the clumsy, hasty, incompetent antics of that egotistical, lying clown who brazened his way into no 10.

Yes, the shock of the morning after has gone and continued bitterness and anger are negative emotions that help no-one.

I agree, that is the best way forward and I can see small diplomatic steps being taken. 🤞

I didn't go on the march but sent a donation equivalent to my fare on the special bus. All tickets were sold. Went on the last rally.

I was an adamant remainer but that ship has gone I am afraid. The only way now is renegotiate the trade agreement as best we can. It has to be done in a sensible and diplomatic way unlike the clumsy, hasty, incompetent antics of that egotistical, lying clown who brazened his way into no 10.

GrannyRose15

Katie59

“It might be my senior memory failing me but I don't recall any of the Leave campaigners in the run up to the referendum telling us that we wouldn't see any benefits for 50 years...”

That was Rees Mogg sometime after the referendum

Pity you didn’t speak to me because I was saying it before the referendum. Though I was saying forty not fifty years. Interesting how my 40 has become 50 considering the other thread I have commented on this evening which was about maths education.

Oh, I didn't realise that you were one of the leading Leave campaigners splashed all over the media saying that it would take 40 years to see the benefits...

How very brave of you. Even Rees Mogg waited until after the referendum to be honest about it.

Did your argument persuade others to vote Leave?