Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

Fleurpepper

Oh dear, little do you know.

Oh please do enlighten…

Callistemon 'But we accept a democratic vote in this country'

it has been proven beyond any doubts that there was nothing democratic about this Referendum. So much so that, had it been binding instead of advisory, it would have been annuled by the Electoral Commission.

Oh dear, little do you know.

Fleurpepper

Kandinsky

and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK

Really?
Wow.
Do drug dealers know this?

Oh yes, and the mafia too.

No the mafia are ensconced in Sicily and running Italy

Kandinsky

*and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK*

Really?
Wow.
Do drug dealers know this?

Oh yes, and the mafia too.

Perhaps not rejoin but we could aim for closer ties a la Norway which we were promised, alongside saving money , when it’s cost us billions and will continue to do so in lost GDP . What about all the lies that our public services would improve and immigration would fall when it’s gone up sinceBrexit.

CoolCoco

Perhaps not rejoin but no reason why we can’t aim for closer relationship a la Norway, which we were actually promised by the likes of Farage, Brexit has cost us billions, far from saving money, and continues to devalue our GDP every year, so another Brexit lie, as well as the lies about improving our public services- they’ve got worse, and cutting immigration - it’s gone up. We were also led to believe the EU would collapse without us - it hasn’t and we’d all be better off - we aren’t. So many lies.

Yes, that's what mean about the referendum being poorly thought out.

I think most people would have wanted to retain a trade agreement and other links.

We were also told we could make our own regulations - the useless UKCA quietly dropped and the only regulations we’ve changed have been for the worse - sewage in the sea, bee killing pesticides allowed etc.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

Are you saying that there are no checks on the journey through EU Countries from Eastern Europe Fleurpepper ?

Oh my goodness - we don't want to import rabies from the EU!!
😲

most people on Gn and elsewhere, have quietly accepted that Brexit was a huge mistake

I think many of us we knew that so voted to remain.
We realise it was poorly thought through.

But we accept a democratic vote in this country as well as the result of the subsequent GE, and, instead of wailing and gnashing of teeth, get on with it and hope that better a relationship with our neighbours can be achieved in the future.

Perhaps not rejoin but no reason why we can’t aim for closer relationship a la Norway, which we were actually promised by the likes of Farage, Brexit has cost us billions, far from saving money, and continues to devalue our GDP every year, so another Brexit lie, as well as the lies about improving our public services- they’ve got worse, and cutting immigration - it’s gone up. We were also led to believe the EU would collapse without us - it hasn’t and we’d all be better off - we aren’t. So many lies.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

Are you saying that there are no checks on the journey through EU Countries from Eastern Europe Fleurpepper ?

Customs started checking again on the 1st of April this year.
One important caveat written into the new rules is that eu lorry drivers arriving here empty can’t take on haulage jobs, something the d been doing for years undercutting our hauliers.

There are a few rather snippy, and a few more rather silly comments on this thread. Why on earth shouldn't people go to protest? Why the sarcasm? i was on the last one ( underreported of course) and it was a lovely, friendly day spent in the company of people who felt the same as I did. At the time, I, and others on GN were repeatedly told by the smug winning Brexiteers that we needed to 'get over it', that we were 'sore losers' or the corker of 'if we loved Europe so much, why didn't we move there?' not forgetting the accusations of being a traitor. So, going on that march, with like minded people, was to me, a refreshing change. This was about 4 years ago of course, and with the exception of the real die hards, most people on Gn and elsewhere, have quietly accepted that Brexit was a huge mistake.

and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK

Really?
Wow.
Do drug dealers know this?

Fleurpepper

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

Are you saying that there are no checks on the journey through EU Countries from Eastern Europe Fleurpepper ?

GrannyGravy has explained about the dogs.

Can someone explain why we’re not in recession but Germany is?
I believe Germany is still in the EU.

Fleurpepper

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

XL Bully’s are a cross breed of an American Bulldog and an English Bulldog.

The frozen sperm is imported from America, as whilst the American Bulldogs are an illegal bread in the U.K. it is not currently illegal to import their sperm.

Cost of living - Covid, war in Ukraine, increased energy costs, the 2008 crash which we have not recovered from

NHS - insufficient investment

Net zero - alignment with Europe

We may be a pragmatic nation, Callistemon, but most people, in whatever nation, just have to get on with living their lives as best they can, regardless of what is happening nationally.

However, this is no way nullifies the fact that Brexit has been an economic and democratic disaster for the UK and a disaster for those who have been adversely affected by it. And that there has been no mitigation for them or prospect of any real improvement, just a bit of tinkering around the edges if Labour wins power.

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

maddyone

I imagine the cost of living, NHS, and net zero is more at the forefront of people’s minds at the moment, plus the dog attacks perhaps.

Well apart from the dogs- what is the main reason for all this?

And people, in general, like to push unpleasant things to the back of their mind; I know I do

I think it is rather thst, as a nation, we tend to be pragmatic.

We may moan and groan initially, but generally, most people roll up their sleeves and get on with what life throws at them.

The philosophy seems to be If life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

MayBee70

Maybe keeping things in people’s minds that governments wish to be brushed under the carpet. And, we might still have nuclear weapons but they haven’t (thus far ) been used. So no one knows what might have been if some people hadn’t shown their disapproval of them. And people, in general, like to push unpleasant things to the back of their mind; I know I do. Sometimes those things have to be brought out into the open. I didn’t go on the march for various reasons but one is that I feel the way forward is to rebuild our relationship with Europe. If that leads to rejoining the EU I’m happy with that, but it’s a long way down the line and sorting out the mess left by Brexit isn’t going to be immediately resolved by trying to rejoin. At the same time I don’t want people to forget the disruption, both financial and social, that Brexit has brought about.

"And, we might still have nuclear weapons but they haven’t (thus far ) been used. So no one knows what might have been if some people hadn’t shown their disapproval of them."
Do you honestly think that one of the reasons the UK has not (thus far) used its nuclear weapons is that CND and its adherents wouldn't approve?

I imagine the cost of living, NHS, and net zero is more at the forefront of people’s minds at the moment, plus the dog attacks perhaps.