Tell me how this is right?

welbeck

this seems to be an issue that largely divides on age lines.
the elders are v concerned, the youngers think they are misguided, or narrow-minded, or something; ie that there is no problem, except prejudice.
not sure where the divide falls, about age 40, maybe ?
i guess others have noticed this too.

No, it is not divided on age lines.
It is divided into those who have an understanding of biology and genetics and understand the difference between sex and gender and those who do not.

Many under 40s seem to have missed hearing about this dramatic ability to change sex, too. 🤔

Ali23

These threads are always biased. It makes me so sad. They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.

50 years ago would you all have been harping about black rights activists?

I hope and pray that you can open your hearts and minds just a little bit.

No, the award is for Outstanding Female LGBTQIA+champion.

LGBTQIA+champion as a title would be fine whoever won the title.

This person is not an Outstanding Female however they identify.

Ali23

These threads are always biased. It makes me so sad. They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.

50 years ago would you all have been harping about black rights activists?

I hope and pray that you can open your hearts and minds just a little bit.

Who will you be praying to Ali23?

Wheniwasyourage

My DGC of both sexes (at least the ones old enough to know what it’s all about) are well aware of what the difference between men and women is, and of what a woman is. They are tolerant of the different ways in which people think of themselves, but have no time for the TRA aggression. It’s not all just a matter of age welbeck

Well said.

Ali23

These threads are always biased. It makes me so sad. They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.

50 years ago would you all have been harping about black rights activists?

I hope and pray that you can open your hearts and minds just a little bit.

No, and I find your comment about race offensive. There is no comparison between black people wanting to be treated the same as white people and men wanting to enter women’s sports- none at all. I am so sick of having to answer questions based on this totally false equivalence.

Please don’t pray for me. My heart and mind are open, but I want to protect women and girls. Would you like me to pray for you to want the same?

Ali23

These threads are always biased. It makes me so sad. They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.

50 years ago would you all have been harping about black rights activists?

I hope and pray that you can open your hearts and minds just a little bit.

They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.
The tweet says "I was awarded the East Midlands outstanding FEMALE.........." A transwoman is not by any definition female, or are we not to have any word for that sex designed to provide the large gamete in sexual reproduction? It is very pertinent what sex wins a female award.

I very much doubt any of us would have been "harping" about black rights activists, nor before you raise it gay rights activists. Why try to malign women who merely are concerned about women being shoved aside at every opportunity? What is it about males taking awards meant for females in sports, literary awards, business awards etc etc that you think is so inherently "fair"?

Ali23, I don’t think your likening aggressive TRAs to black rights activists is a valid comparison. One group were aiming for equality whereas the other is attempting dominance.

My DGC of both sexes (at least the ones old enough to know what it’s all about) are well aware of what the difference between men and women is, and of what a woman is. They are tolerant of the different ways in which people think of themselves, but have no time for the TRA aggression. It’s not all just a matter of age welbeck

These threads are always biased. It makes me so sad. They won the award for being a LGBTQIA+champion therefore it was not pertinent which gender they were themselves.

50 years ago would you all have been harping about black rights activists?

I hope and pray that you can open your hearts and minds just a little bit.

welbeck

this seems to be an issue that largely divides on age lines.
the elders are v concerned, the youngers think they are misguided, or narrow-minded, or something; ie that there is no problem, except prejudice.
not sure where the divide falls, about age 40, maybe ?
i guess others have noticed this too.

Interesting.
It divides age levels? You think all the sports women who have been deprived of a medal by a cheating man are over 40?
Wow!
You think all the women who enter competitions like this one are happy to lose to a cheating man?
Wow.

I suppose it depends on who you know, or if you’ve ever been deprived of a win by a cheat. Maybe you support cheating and lying by anyone at any age.
It’s unusual, but there are obviously some people who support lying and cheating as right. (Probably until it affects them.)

We live in a crazy world today.

What did the person win? It says Outstanding female LGBTQIA+ champion. Do we really expect that not to ignore physical gender.

What was the award for? What is the aim of the organisation which made the award?

Unbelievable…😳

Wrong on every level

which forces ?

You would think they would have a sense of fair play, and self respect, and other emotions.
But clearly they do not.

Therefore it should be up to others to stop this.

I am going to say something controversial but I dont care.
I think there are forces at work to destablise things in this country, and elsewhere in the world too.

I also think that influences are at work at the top of various aspects of societies.
And they use money to help to make things filter down.

obviously, there are outliers, esp among young female athletes, i would imagine, who do see the problem !

this seems to be an issue that largely divides on age lines.
the elders are v concerned, the youngers think they are misguided, or narrow-minded, or something; ie that there is no problem, except prejudice.
not sure where the divide falls, about age 40, maybe ?
i guess others have noticed this too.

Unsurprisingly I think it is a disgrace. Unfortunately, until the blanket acceptance of self-id stops, there is nothing we can do to stop men beating women in sport, taking over the WI, gatecrashing lesbian dating events, entering changing rooms with teenage girls and so on.

Wrong at every level

Anyone who thinks it’s ok needs to give their head a wobble and retake GCSE Biology

Wrong. Just wrong.

It is not right and everyone knows it, but hey, win at all costs.

Is one still permitted to use the phrase "The lunatics have taken over the asylum'?
Probably not... but it fits the bill here.

It’s not right it’s disgusting. He is a man. What a joke.