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My Victor Meldrew moment

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MaizieD Tue 03-Oct-23 11:27:01

I don't believe it!

After Sunak's announcement postponing Net Zero last week, in which he asserted that he was forestalling imaginary initiatives such as compulsory car sharing, a meat tax, flight taxes, and 7 bins for recycling, I scrolled through twitter this morning to find that his ministers have seized these phantom initiatives wholeheartedly and even saying that Labour is definitely going to introduce them.

Firstly, our new Environment Secretary, Claire Coutinho, says in her speech that Starmer is going to introduce a meat tax. Though Sophie Ridge has her measure. See the clip

twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1708913451710484494

Then we have Andrew Bowie, a junior minister, on BBC PM asserting that highly restrictive '15 minute cities' are on LA's agendas, when it is untrue. 'You're spreading conspiracy theories, aren't you?', says Evan Davis..

twitter.com/BBCPM/status/1708900199177838859

Then we have Therese Coffey announcing that she is axing an EU rule banning bendy bananas shock There never was an EU rule banning bendy bananas. Boris Johnson made it up for a laugh when he was a bored Brussels Correspondent for a newspaper..

But, of course, Labour are sneakily going to keep this non existent EU rule...

twitter.com/noel_sergeant/status/1708908754312294489

Oh, and the racist tory candidate for London Mayor has claimed that Jews are terrified of Sadiq Khan (sorry, can't find a clip for that)

Thank heaven for some sane tweeters...

Steve Peers
@StevePeers
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People banned from travelling more than 15 minutes. "Blanket" 20mph speed limits. Meat taxes. Fake gay refugees. Jews terrified of Sadiq Khan.

The Conservative party has simply become addicted to lying. It lacks the competence or integrity to make an honest appeal to voters.

hallgreenmiss Wed 04-Oct-23 16:14:36

Lin663

Braverman is a disgusting, heartless, individual. It always astounds me when people stick up for her and her evil spoutings.

Agreed!

Quokka Wed 04-Oct-23 16:13:29

Bella23

Can anyone tell me if any of the other parties if they come into power will be any better?
We know what the Labour Party says it won't do but not what it will do.
It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.
I don't have any faith in any of them the country is at crisis point.

I think it’s a bit early for Labour to formulate their policies given recent events.

Hopefully they are waiting to see the complete range of cock-ups made by the Tories over the next few months rather than jump in too soon. For example who could have foreseen Sunak’s recent antics eg ditching net zero, ditching HS2 north, or Braveman’s new take on Enoch Powell?

I must hope that they come up with something dynamic and opposite.

hallgreenmiss Wed 04-Oct-23 16:13:24

MaizieD

Here's some of Braverman's truly disgusting speech

twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1709220568862450083

What’s really frightening is the level of support she has for her ideas. Also frightening is how a man was dragged out of the hall for daring to mildly heckle her.

Grantanow Wed 04-Oct-23 15:56:23

I gather the Board of Deputies of British Jews has rubbished the claim that Khan makes Jews fearful.

oodles Wed 04-Oct-23 15:14:33

Is ve up for 7 types of recycling being recycled, at the moment I have 4 bins of different sizes and can if I want put out small electrical items. I have to take glass and soft plastic to a supermarket.so 2 more bins welcomed What else could we have a bin for
I take my tablet strips somewhere and a garden centre not too far away takes compost bags and broken plastic plant pots, maybe a bit specializes but if offered one I'd have one for this

Dinahmo Wed 04-Oct-23 15:13:00

Bella23

Can anyone tell me if any of the other parties if they come into power will be any better?
We know what the Labour Party says it won't do but not what it will do.
It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.
I don't have any faith in any of them the country is at crisis point.

Do you really have to ask this question? Nobody could be worse than this current shower.

sundowngirl Wed 04-Oct-23 14:46:29

biglouis

I support at least 90% of what Braverman says. No one ever asked me (or anyone else) if I wanted multi culturalism and I certainly would not have voted for it.

Hear hear. We can’t sustain over half a million a year increase in our population. I didn’t vote for multiculturalism either and I don’t understand why it is to be applauded

MaggsMcG Wed 04-Oct-23 14:17:03

There is a grain of truth in the 15 minute cities.it is mostly Labour Councils that are promoting these. I don't actually trust 90% of all politicians what they say and what they do are two different things.

Casdon Wed 04-Oct-23 14:15:53

JdotJ

biglouis

I support at least 90% of what Braverman says. No one ever asked me (or anyone else) if I wanted multi culturalism and I certainly would not have voted for it.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I on the other hand support nothing Suella Braverman says. The Marsh Family sum up my view completely.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmj0JFGqE30
She is a dangerous woman.

JdotJ Wed 04-Oct-23 13:53:55

biglouis

I support at least 90% of what Braverman says. No one ever asked me (or anyone else) if I wanted multi culturalism and I certainly would not have voted for it.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

BevSec Wed 04-Oct-23 12:53:34

Me too

Delila Wed 04-Oct-23 12:43:59

Nice to think there’s 10% you don’t support, Biglouis. There’s a chink of hope for you yet…wink

biglouis Wed 04-Oct-23 12:40:28

I support at least 90% of what Braverman says. No one ever asked me (or anyone else) if I wanted multi culturalism and I certainly would not have voted for it.

Delila Wed 04-Oct-23 12:38:37

The idea of the Conservative Party making “long-term” plans at this juncture is laughable. They could (and do) say anything under the sun - none of it means anything.

Tanjamaltija Wed 04-Oct-23 12:30:56

www.itv.com/news/london/2023-10-03/mayoral-candidate-criticised-for-suggesting-jewish-people-are-frightened-by-khan @MaizieD

Pammie1 Wed 04-Oct-23 12:16:52

Bella23

Can anyone tell me if any of the other parties if they come into power will be any better?
We know what the Labour Party says it won't do but not what it will do.
It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.
I don't have any faith in any of them the country is at crisis point.

I don’t think we can say with any certainty that any other party will be any better - politicians don’t seem to have any integrity these days whatever their political colour, and I think one of the biggest problems is that we don’t have any talented policy makers any more. The only thing we can say with certainty is that this government has shown themselves for what they really are and all we can hope for is that they’ve made the Tories unelectable for some time to come.

Cagsy Wed 04-Oct-23 12:10:37

Well Victoria’s Derbyshire laid into one on their ministers on Newsnight last night, showing clips of these Tory lies and then demanding how they call themselves the party of truth - they’re on a par with Trump, sadly.

MaizieD Wed 04-Oct-23 12:08:12

So does it really matter if politicians are taking something that Sunak meant sarcastically seriously?

He wasn't being sarcastic. He was telling lies. They're all telling lies. They are trying to worry people about things that were not going to happen and are not part of any other party's plans.

grandtanteJE65 Wed 04-Oct-23 11:59:56

Actually, in the part of Denmark I live in, we already are sorting our rubbish in six categories. Of these five are re-cycled and the sixth, which is household waste is incinerated. So if your present or next government brings that in, it will be environmentally sound.

So would a tax on meat be, as long as vegetables are either priced lower than at present or free of VAT. And a tax on air travel would make good sense environmently speaking too.

So does it really matter if politicians are taking something that Sunak meant sarcastically seriously?

Lin663 Wed 04-Oct-23 11:52:36

Braverman is a disgusting, heartless, individual. It always astounds me when people stick up for her and her evil spoutings.

EEJit Wed 04-Oct-23 11:50:00

Show me an MP, of any party who doesn't tell porkies at one time or another

Freya5 Wed 04-Oct-23 11:48:35

Oreo

srn63

I agree with Bridie22, I can't see see anything disgusting in the link posted by MaizieD.

Me neither

Me neither.

Oreo Tue 03-Oct-23 21:48:02

srn63

I agree with Bridie22, I can't see see anything disgusting in the link posted by MaizieD.

Me neither

Dickens Tue 03-Oct-23 21:07:48

annsixty

You couldn’t make it up could you?
What a shower.
So desperate to hang on to power.

You couldn’t make it up could you?

But that's the point - they did!

Casdon Tue 03-Oct-23 20:55:52

ronib

The luxury beliefs brigade - Suella is reading Gnet?

I doubt it. Fairy Tales are more her thing.