My Victor Meldrew moment

You couldn’t make it up could you?
What a shower.
So desperate to hang on to power.

Can anyone tell me if any of the other parties if they come into power will be any better?
We know what the Labour Party says it won't do but not what it will do.
It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.
I don't have any faith in any of them the country is at crisis point.

I feel sick when I see and hear them. They really are desperate. What will be the next thing they'll claim we should be 'concerned about"?

It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.

It is indeed very easy to criticise, Bella23 because these tories are telling outright lies. There isn't a grain of truth in any of them.

No doubt we will find out what Labour has to say when they have their conference next week. I'm sure they can do better than make up completely untrue scare stories.

MaizieD

^It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.^

It is indeed very easy to criticise, Bella23 because these tories are telling outright lies. There isn't a grain of truth in any of them.

No doubt we will find out what Labour has to say when they have their conference next week. I'm sure they can do better than make up completely untrue scare stories.

I certainly hope so as well. I just don't want a phoney Tony Blair look what his lies led us into.
Harold Wilson kept us out of Vietnam, Atlee gave us the NHS which is now at breaking point. Roy Jenkins quoted as being the best Prime Minister that never was.
Where are the people like them now?

We need to know their ideas perhaps next week as you say we might hear them.

Here's some of Braverman's truly disgusting speech

twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1709220568862450083

I didn't think her speech disgusting, I thought she had a valid point re celebrities.

A London Assembly member was manhandled out of the arena, as he criticised her speech as she 'railed against the poison of gender ideology'.
When she quoted Shelley's 'Rise like Lions', so beloved of Jeremy Corbyn, I definitely had a 'I don't believe it ' moment.
Quite bizarre.

I agree with Bridie22, I can't see see anything disgusting in the link posted by MaizieD.

The luxury beliefs brigade - Suella is reading Gnet?

ronib

The luxury beliefs brigade - Suella is reading Gnet?

I doubt it. Fairy Tales are more her thing.

annsixty

You couldn’t make it up could you?
What a shower.
So desperate to hang on to power.

You couldn’t make it up could you?

But that's the point - they did!

srn63

I agree with Bridie22, I can't see see anything disgusting in the link posted by MaizieD.

Me neither

Oreo

srn63

I agree with Bridie22, I can't see see anything disgusting in the link posted by MaizieD.

Me neither

Me neither.

Show me an MP, of any party who doesn't tell porkies at one time or another

Braverman is a disgusting, heartless, individual. It always astounds me when people stick up for her and her evil spoutings.

Actually, in the part of Denmark I live in, we already are sorting our rubbish in six categories. Of these five are re-cycled and the sixth, which is household waste is incinerated. So if your present or next government brings that in, it will be environmentally sound.

So would a tax on meat be, as long as vegetables are either priced lower than at present or free of VAT. And a tax on air travel would make good sense environmently speaking too.

So does it really matter if politicians are taking something that Sunak meant sarcastically seriously?

So does it really matter if politicians are taking something that Sunak meant sarcastically seriously?

He wasn't being sarcastic. He was telling lies. They're all telling lies. They are trying to worry people about things that were not going to happen and are not part of any other party's plans.

Well Victoria’s Derbyshire laid into one on their ministers on Newsnight last night, showing clips of these Tory lies and then demanding how they call themselves the party of truth - they’re on a par with Trump, sadly.

Bella23

Can anyone tell me if any of the other parties if they come into power will be any better?
We know what the Labour Party says it won't do but not what it will do.
It's easy to criticise but you should have your own ideas to express.
I don't have any faith in any of them the country is at crisis point.

I don’t think we can say with any certainty that any other party will be any better - politicians don’t seem to have any integrity these days whatever their political colour, and I think one of the biggest problems is that we don’t have any talented policy makers any more. The only thing we can say with certainty is that this government has shown themselves for what they really are and all we can hope for is that they’ve made the Tories unelectable for some time to come.

www.itv.com/news/london/2023-10-03/mayoral-candidate-criticised-for-suggesting-jewish-people-are-frightened-by-khan @MaizieD

The idea of the Conservative Party making “long-term” plans at this juncture is laughable. They could (and do) say anything under the sun - none of it means anything.

I support at least 90% of what Braverman says. No one ever asked me (or anyone else) if I wanted multi culturalism and I certainly would not have voted for it.

Nice to think there’s 10% you don’t support, Biglouis. There’s a chink of hope for you yet…