nurses convicted of sedating elderly patients for a quiet shift!

Lovely post Namsnanny

Often distraction is the best thing you can do. My Mum was in a care home for a few months where the staff were a nasty lot and they were unkind and untrained. I was fooled because it was spotlessly clean and they fed me a load of lies but that’s another story.

An elderly lady across the corridor called out all day “I want to go home” or “I want to see my Mum” and she would ring the buzzer. Staff would take ages to arrive and I very often heard them shouting at her to be quiet, threatening her with no tea, repeatedly telling her that this is now her home and spitefully laughing “how can your Mother me alive when you are nearly a hundred yourself.” It was horrible and upset my Mum and myself too.

Very occasionally they would bring her to the day room but just ignore her but if me or Mum tried to chat to her she soon quietened down and we had some nice chats about her childhood, her pets etc. it wasn’t that they were too busy, it was that they couldn’t be bothered.

I actually “sprang” my Mum from that home with the help of my lovely niece over a bank holiday when I knew the Manager and Deputy would not be working. We still laugh about our daring escapade. 🤣🤣🤣

MerylStreep

I know a psychiatric nurse who is evil. I’m sure that’s why he went into that particular field.
I know a woman who has been steeling from Guys hospital for years.

And what have YOU DONE about this?

SachaMac

Disgusting but somehow not surprising nowadays. Well done to the student nurse who blew the whistle.
There are so many vulnerable people on the wards & this evil pair knew just who to target to get away with it. Hope they both get long hard sentences, not a caring bone in their bodies by the look & sounds of it.

There is nothing about 'nowadays' about it. Patients with dementia have aways been over sedated, and this is currently only worse because of the crisis in nursing staffing and cuts.

Fleurpepper

SachaMac

Disgusting but somehow not surprising nowadays. Well done to the student nurse who blew the whistle.
There are so many vulnerable people on the wards & this evil pair knew just who to target to get away with it. Hope they both get long hard sentences, not a caring bone in their bodies by the look & sounds of it.

There is nothing about 'nowadays' about it. Patients with dementia have aways been over sedated, and this is currently only worse because of the crisis in nursing staffing and cuts.

This wasn't because of the cuts.
It was deliberate , malicious and pure evil.

There have always been people attracted to the medical professions for the wrong reasons.

Fleurpepper

MerylStreep

I know a psychiatric nurse who is evil. I’m sure that’s why he went into that particular field.
I know a woman who has been steeling from Guys hospital for years.

And what have YOU DONE about this?

In what way?

If someone KNOWS someone who is a psychiatric nurse who is evil, they should not just say it on GN- but DO something!

Same if someone knows of someone stealing from NHS.

What would you suggest?

It makes your blood go cold. Where there should be care and a vocation there is pure evil.

👍Primrose53

Wow - it’s definitely bash a nurse day today!
99.9% of qualified nurses are there because they chose to be - money is appalling, conditions, shifts etc are pants.
This thread has really saddened me, yes there are some dreadful nurses who make the headlines but don’t forget the vast majority of the ones who have dedicated all their working life to care - I hope they’re not reading this thread it’s heart breaking reading all these negative comments.
Every profession has people in it who shouldn’t be there please don’t jump on a bandwagon and make a generalisation about nurses 😢

There has always been instances of medical staff becoming addicted to drugs because they have easy access to it.

This is just another instance of it, made worse by the fact that the women involved seem to have made a game of gambling with other people's lives and healths, and as far as I could gather they were not themselves either using the drugs nor selling them .

Not that there is any excuse for their misconduct and I hope they, and anyone else who misuses their work in this manner , are tried and sentenced for attempted manslaughter at the very least.

And of course, neither should ever be able to work as a nurse again anywhere in the world.

The portrayal of nurses as ‘angels’ is promoted by the MSM who often use it to push their own anti government agenda. My mother was a nurse and certainly talked of many she worked with as lazy, uncaring and cruel to the patients. Stealing was rife and expected, towels, sheets, medical supplies and drugs etc. They called it ‘going shopping’. Night nurses had a room to which they regularly retired clandestinely to sleep in, leaving the ward short staffed and the patients unattended. It disillusioned my mother who really did care for her patients. This was about forty years ago and continues to this day, I guess.

nothing new here, been reported on many years back.. see I do recall this! (referring to other thread about not remembering "things")

It's a pity these nurses can't be sedated, m then wonder what's been Done to them!

Not all nurses are angels, some are most definitely in the wrong profession.
I was once told I was lazy for asking for help getting to the bathroom. She said at 32 and there being nothing wrong with me she wasn't going to waste her time, if I was going to be this lazy I would have to either go by myself or lay in my own wee. She was busy (chatting at the nurse's station which was visible from my bed) I then pointed out that I had spinal damage with four discs out of alignment and were putting pressure on my spinal cord. Could she help me by bringing my wheelchair closer.
I was then told she would need help as I was a ’big girl’, and she wasn't going to hurt her back helping me. I'm a size 8 bottom and 12 top (boobs).The second nurse was just as vile and derogatory. Saying I was just putting it on and being lazy. I just needed help getting upright sitting and was still learning to transfer to my wheelchair and didn't want to fall.
Vile nasty women.
I was on the wrong ward as the spinal unit at that hospital was full. I think I was on a general surgery ward.
I overheard them being nasty to a lady with dementia too. Teasing her.

teachkate

Wow - it’s definitely bash a nurse day today!
99.9% of qualified nurses are there because they chose to be - money is appalling, conditions, shifts etc are pants.
This thread has really saddened me, yes there are some dreadful nurses who make the headlines but don’t forget the vast majority of the ones who have dedicated all their working life to care - I hope they’re not reading this thread it’s heart breaking reading all these negative comments.
Every profession has people in it who shouldn’t be there please don’t jump on a bandwagon and make a generalisation about nurses 😢

We have several nurses in the family, all dedicated professionals.

But even they have been sickened by the way their relative has been treated in hospital, as were we when DH had a long spell in hospital - no visits allowed because of Covid so no family to fight their corner!
So yes, it happens and it is not as uncommon as you claim.

Merryweather that is awful.

I have had good care generally although I can remember one or two who were unpleasant.

polnan

nothing new here, been reported on many years back.. see I do recall this! (referring to other thread about not remembering "things")

It was only on the news the other day

This is rather close to home at the mo. If you know of any mistreatment of vulnerable patients or of any misbehaviours first report it to the matron/senior manager. If not dealt with then complain to The Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) (put PALs into google and the link to the gov.uk site comes up).
It’s easy to do and they have to reply within so many days, 40 I think.
The matron/senior managers are often not in the ward these days- they deal more with admin apparently. But, their name and contact number should be clearly displayed on the ward notice board.
Please, to stop this culture of a significant minority, do complain. It’s the only way it will make them think twice, and possibly even stop it. I, for one, hope it is stopped before I ever have need of it.

Disgusting - but I think you'll find that 26,000 of our elderly were treated similarly before being sent to Care Homes in April 2020, and they did lose their lives ... Hancock et al need to be in jail for that one.

Actually in February 202 hen I had to go in for emergency surgery, I found out a coupe of days later that my Fentanyl Patches, and my Insulin had been taken from me - I was livid that they had been through my bag to start with, but the rest of my drugs has been put in my locker, but not those two, one which would definitely have been used recreationally, but the other could well have been used for 'seeing someone off' quite easily ... one of many complaints I had about that admission, and am waiting for it to happen again sadly. I absolutely agree with *Primrose's friend, and being a nurse who trained in the 1980's I know how it should be done, and nowadays it isn't done at all most of it (certainly in my local hospital which is dreadful, but had great care in Bristol Southmead Hospital - streets apart!)

Hospices are different, people work there because they want to give good end of life care.

My mother was in a nursing home,spending most of the day in a communal room where I was a constant visitor to the extent that I became unnoticed by the staff. One day ,I witnessed a very frail ,near death lady being "fed" by two nurses. The patient was trying to push them away and crying" No,no", obviously not wanting any food but the two nurses pushed her back almost horizontal in the chair and squirted liquid food down her throat with a syringe,making her choke and retch. The nurses were laughing and commenting that the syringe was sticking so that they had to squeeze hard, making the food squirt out with force. I found the phone number of the regulatory body and reported what I had seen, but they would not accept my report as I asked to remain anonymous in case of reprisals impacting my mother's care. The home owners denied ever using syringe feeding. There was an unannounced inspection of the home later and it closed soon after but my mother had died by then. The lady I saw being syringe fed died 2 days later.

chicken

My mother was in a nursing home,spending most of the day in a communal room where I was a constant visitor to the extent that I became unnoticed by the staff. One day ,I witnessed a very frail ,near death lady being "fed" by two nurses. The patient was trying to push them away and crying" No,no", obviously not wanting any food but the two nurses pushed her back almost horizontal in the chair and squirted liquid food down her throat with a syringe,making her choke and retch. The nurses were laughing and commenting that the syringe was sticking so that they had to squeeze hard, making the food squirt out with force. I found the phone number of the regulatory body and reported what I had seen, but they would not accept my report as I asked to remain anonymous in case of reprisals impacting my mother's care. The home owners denied ever using syringe feeding. There was an unannounced inspection of the home later and it closed soon after but my mother had died by then. The lady I saw being syringe fed died 2 days later.

Oh chicken that must have been dreadful for you to witness.

There is this fear that if you whistleblow then your parents “care” could be adversely affected.

At the care home I mentioned I spoke to 4 sets of families and they were all very unhappy with how their parents were treated but did not say anything because they were worried about what might happen to their parents.

I was unable to see the so called nurse who tried to pull my knickers off, calling me a disgusting old cow for sleeping in them. I was still very dopey from an emergency operation otherwise I’d have wiped the floor with her. I’d been undressed by nurses when brought in half unconscious and my last memory was a nurse telling me she would be leaving my knickers on for decencies sake.
As I slowly regained consciousness another nurse came in and said she wasn’t qualified but years of experience made her know that judging from the x rays, I’d be making a full recovery.
I hope she understood that I said” appreciate your telling me thank you”

Agree with TerriT as I have seen ‘angels’ behaving as unlike Angels as can be in the last 50 years whenever a
Loved one has been in hosp and it’s getting worse - my lovely Mum with dementia was ignored calling to go to the toilet - I know it’s true as I was there and had to virtually drag one of the ‘angels’ away from her chat - it’s appalling

Fleurpepper

MerylStreep

I know a psychiatric nurse who is evil. I’m sure that’s why he went into that particular field.
I know a woman who has been steeling from Guys hospital for years.

And what have YOU DONE about this?

Are you having a laugh? You seriously think I’m going to tell you.