Conservatives:voters and professional politicians

Climate has always changed.
Interesting to find information online showing 23 extinct animals over last 150 years. Human activity is the cause.

Yes I agree with the report - climate change posses a much greater threat to birds than wind farms. It has long been settled I thought that they will be kept out of migration routes and breeding sites.

MaizieD since no one is counting dead birds in a very reliable way, I am a bit unsure about the accuracy of the estimates. Presumably birds shredded by wind turbines placed in the sea are just not visible to the human eye?
I knew someone once who worked for the RSPB and he hated cats with a vengeance. Wonder what he thinks about wind turbines.
I have seen some reports that painting one blade of a wind turbine black does act as a warning to birds.

ronib

Iam64

Ronib, various research studies show birds are avoiding wind turbines

Iam64 all part of the birds’ literacy program?
I don’t think so …..

www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/behind-the-headlines-bird-fatalities-and-wind-turbines/

GSM wrote: "Many church roofs in staunchly Conservative areas of Norfolk are being fitted with solar panels. And of course we have offshore wind farms here which you can admire from the lovely north Norfolk beaches,"

Your heart is in the right place as usual.

The liberal C of E is conscientious as always. However issues of climate change are too urgent to be left to the Church and to conscientious individuals, and must be legislated for.

LizzieDrip, I applaud your upbeat tone!

Chough Dancer, I agree solar panels covering fields are not pretty. I think my attitude is similar to yours: solar panels on many fields may be the lesser evil compared with the climate going to pot.

To Grans who objected to my initial sarcasm: I think when adults are having a serious discussion present company is excepted so that we may be objective.

Yes, I'm sure I remember hearing that solar panels are compulsory in all car parks in France with over 100 spaces.

I don't understand why they don't put solar panels on the acres of roofs on industrial sites, ugly hypermarkets and factories. It may be a bit more difficult for retro fitting, but should be mandatory on new ones. Surely they could give an incentive to owners of these buildings to install them.

I am very pro solar and wind power, but can understand why people don't like having panels on fields.

LizzieDrip

Another admirer of wind turbines here. I like to think of them as modern windmills. There’s something strangely calming and reassuring about them. I live near a huge wind farm which I often drive past - love to see all the majestic turbines turning in unison.

I wonder if Don Quixote will come along soon!

Iam64

Ronib, various research studies show birds are avoiding wind turbines

Iam64 all part of the birds’ literacy program?
I don’t think so …..

I am not against them, I do hope that they can be manufactured and sited in a more ecological and carbon neutral way.

Iam64

Ronib, various research studies show birds are avoiding wind turbines

I am sure I have read that the carbon footprint of manufacturing and siting an onshore wind turbine will never be recouped by the amount of energy each one can produce during its estimated lifespan.

As siting an offshore wind turbine is far more complicated and expensive I imagine that is comparable.

(I will continue to look for the piece I read)

Ronib, various research studies show birds are avoiding wind turbines

Well on wind turbines I am conflicted. Probably more cats kill birds than wind turbines do but still more needs to be done to protect our feathered friends.

Another admirer of wind turbines here. I like to think of them as modern windmills. There’s something strangely calming and reassuring about them. I live near a huge wind farm which I often drive past - love to see all the majestic turbines turning in unison.

We have no numerous wind turbines on our exposed windy moors. I love them

My late Mum used to love the windfarms off the N Norfolk coast. *From upstairs she could see the distant turbines and she used to say in the middle of the night when they were twinkling she did not feel so alone. RIP Mum.

That's lovely Primrose53

I love them. We have them offshore here. I think they're quite beautiful

The Conservative Party does not Prioritise measures to stop dangerous climate change. Scientists all say we are not doing enough and need a national policy to help us to do our bit.

I love them too WW2. They look majestic and peaceful.

I am on the South Downs and looking out to the English Channel can see what seems to be hundreds of wind turbines quietly going about their business of producing electricity.

Not a jot of pollution enters the air.

I love them.

We don’t have wind turbines in this county, it’s against policy,
PP for solar farms are fought tooth and nail by the environmental loonies, definitely nimby land here. The other problem is the ransom that National Grid demand for a connection.

Joseann,I live in a nice place too, albeit a suburb, but when halting climate change is the common goal, naturally I must accede to land use other than its visual amenity, as the alternative is too bad to contemplate.

That’s nice Primrose. I don’t mind them at all.

Germanshepherdsmum

Many church roofs in staunchly Conservative areas of Norfolk are being fitted with solar panels. And of course we have offshore wind farms here which you can admire from the lovely north Norfolk beaches,

My late Mum used to love the windfarms off the N Norfolk coast. From upstairs she could see the distant turbines and she used to say in the middle of the night when they were twinkling she did not feel so alone. RIP Mum.