Labour Party conference

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GrannyGravy13

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

Same place as the Tories are getting them presumably!

Visas for immigrant nurses and doctors, and of course more courses opened for doctor.

Trainee nurses work on the job.

My second cousin was employed to help nhs staff during covid when she was training to be a doctor. She said it gave her huge experience and an idea how nursing staff work and the pressure they are under.

Not sure there are queues of clinicians waiting to enter the U.K.

When this was suggested by the Conservatives there was uproar on a GN thread about poaching staff from the poorest countries and denying them health care.

All of sudden it’s a Labour Party policy and all is well…

If they restore pay levels and increase staffing levels there could well be a lot of people returning to work in the NHS.

But I think they have to restore pay levels.

40,000 nurses left the NHS in 2022. Two thirds of them were under 45, so it's not retirees..

www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2022/10/nhs-nursing-workforce

GrannyGravy13

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

Same place as the Tories are getting them presumably!

Visas for immigrant nurses and doctors, and of course more courses opened for doctor.

Trainee nurses work on the job.

My second cousin was employed to help nhs staff during covid when she was training to be a doctor. She said it gave her huge experience and an idea how nursing staff work and the pressure they are under.

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

GrannyGravy13

The two nearest NHS teaching hospitals to us already work 7 days a week, operations, outpatients the full caboodle.

They don’t near us. The junior doctors don’t have much of a private list as far as I can make out. My sister sees her private consultant at very strange hours - largely any time after 9pm.

So presumably he is available to the NHS until then. Well actually I know he is. However I suspect that it will be junior staff who will largely deal with the backlog.

The point is I’m sure that the clinicians want to see the lists decrease and will work hard - as they always do- to try to clear it. Don’t forget that the clinicians constantly work more than their hours but are not paid for doing so. Labour is to use the non-Dom tax to pay for this. It makes much more sense than paying for agency staff who are eye-wateringly expensive.

More staffing levels planned within the next year. 7500 doctors and 10000 more nurses, to be paid for by the current governments workforce plan.

Starmer expects patients will begin to see a difference within months

The two nearest NHS teaching hospitals to us already work 7 days a week, operations, outpatients the full caboodle.

So presumably the incentive for doctors to work at the weekends will mean that all private patients will be denied treatment or treated in a less timely way?

No I’m not sure, but there are other supporters, so I assumed he was genuine.

Are you sure Goyal wasn't being sarcastic?

Other comments I've seen have said that the staff are so knackered already that asking them to work even more would possibly be dangerous...

An example of the comments by NHS doctors on Labours plans to clear the backlog.

Dr Dan Goyal
@danielgoyal
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Fasten your seatbelts because this Labour Policy to recovering the NHS is actually spot on!

Investing £1.5bn into overtime payments to get NHS staff to do extra weekends and evenings…

Probably the most cost effective way to clear the backlog.

Glad about Rwanda.

Well yes but sometimes we take what we can get. It was allegedly very helpful with an MP I am familiar with.

Galaxy

Actually Johnsons current wife was allegedly very helpful in blocking the ambitions of Tory MPs with allegations against them.

It really should have been her husband who did that...

Thank you for the smile Maisie.

Also very welcome was the directness with no equivocation that Starmer answered questions put to him. Such a relief from the nonsense we’ve been subjected to from Sunak, who is so brittle and petulant.

Pleased to see that Labour will stop the Rwanda policy if they get in.

Actually Johnsons current wife was allegedly very helpful in blocking the ambitions of Tory MPs with allegations against them.

Yes I read that! Well she has plenty of experience.

That is funny 😄
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hadow mental health minister Dr Rosena Allin-Khan has resigned from her post, claiming Sir Keir Starmer “doesn’t see a space” for her portfolio in a Labour cabinet.

In a letter to the Labour leader, the MP for Tooting urged him to ensure reform of mental health services remained a “legislative priority” in a future Government after Sir Keir confirmed the reshuffle of his top team.

Conference will have only 1 in 5 Labour members the rest filled with donors ect. Media will be on Starmers side Let's see what independent media have to say about conference.

There will be not be allowed any mention of Palestine.