Labour Party conference

That is funny 😄
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hadow mental health minister Dr Rosena Allin-Khan has resigned from her post, claiming Sir Keir Starmer “doesn’t see a space” for her portfolio in a Labour cabinet.

In a letter to the Labour leader, the MP for Tooting urged him to ensure reform of mental health services remained a “legislative priority” in a future Government after Sir Keir confirmed the reshuffle of his top team.

Conference will have only 1 in 5 Labour members the rest filled with donors ect. Media will be on Starmers side Let's see what independent media have to say about conference.

There will be not be allowed any mention of Palestine.

Yes I read that! Well she has plenty of experience.

Actually Johnsons current wife was allegedly very helpful in blocking the ambitions of Tory MPs with allegations against them.

Pleased to see that Labour will stop the Rwanda policy if they get in.

Also very welcome was the directness with no equivocation that Starmer answered questions put to him. Such a relief from the nonsense we’ve been subjected to from Sunak, who is so brittle and petulant.

Thank you for the smile Maisie.

Galaxy

Actually Johnsons current wife was allegedly very helpful in blocking the ambitions of Tory MPs with allegations against them.

It really should have been her husband who did that...

Well yes but sometimes we take what we can get. It was allegedly very helpful with an MP I am familiar with.

Glad about Rwanda.

An example of the comments by NHS doctors on Labours plans to clear the backlog.

Dr Dan Goyal
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Fasten your seatbelts because this Labour Policy to recovering the NHS is actually spot on!

Investing £1.5bn into overtime payments to get NHS staff to do extra weekends and evenings…

Probably the most cost effective way to clear the backlog.

Are you sure Goyal wasn't being sarcastic?

Other comments I've seen have said that the staff are so knackered already that asking them to work even more would possibly be dangerous...

No I’m not sure, but there are other supporters, so I assumed he was genuine.

So presumably the incentive for doctors to work at the weekends will mean that all private patients will be denied treatment or treated in a less timely way?

The two nearest NHS teaching hospitals to us already work 7 days a week, operations, outpatients the full caboodle.

GrannyGravy13

The two nearest NHS teaching hospitals to us already work 7 days a week, operations, outpatients the full caboodle.

They don’t near us. The junior doctors don’t have much of a private list as far as I can make out. My sister sees her private consultant at very strange hours - largely any time after 9pm.

So presumably he is available to the NHS until then. Well actually I know he is. However I suspect that it will be junior staff who will largely deal with the backlog.

The point is I’m sure that the clinicians want to see the lists decrease and will work hard - as they always do- to try to clear it. Don’t forget that the clinicians constantly work more than their hours but are not paid for doing so. Labour is to use the non-Dom tax to pay for this. It makes much more sense than paying for agency staff who are eye-wateringly expensive.

More staffing levels planned within the next year. 7500 doctors and 10000 more nurses, to be paid for by the current governments workforce plan.

Starmer expects patients will begin to see a difference within months

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

GrannyGravy13

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

Same place as the Tories are getting them presumably!

Visas for immigrant nurses and doctors, and of course more courses opened for doctor.

Trainee nurses work on the job.

My second cousin was employed to help nhs staff during covid when she was training to be a doctor. She said it gave her huge experience and an idea how nursing staff work and the pressure they are under.

If they restore pay levels and increase staffing levels there could well be a lot of people returning to work in the NHS.

But I think they have to restore pay levels.

40,000 nurses left the NHS in 2022. Two thirds of them were under 45, so it's not retirees..

www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2022/10/nhs-nursing-workforce

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

Same place as the Tories are getting them presumably!

Visas for immigrant nurses and doctors, and of course more courses opened for doctor.

Trainee nurses work on the job.

My second cousin was employed to help nhs staff during covid when she was training to be a doctor. She said it gave her huge experience and an idea how nursing staff work and the pressure they are under.

Not sure there are queues of clinicians waiting to enter the U.K.

When this was suggested by the Conservatives there was uproar on a GN thread about poaching staff from the poorest countries and denying them health care.

All of sudden it’s a Labour Party policy and all is well…

I suspect that dispute talks will be the first thing that they will deal with.

They will have to if they don’t want their plans scuppered from the word go.

Labour has no access to the treasury/health dept. Etc so nothing at this stage can be definitive.

gg13 no one as far as I am aware suggesting that we actively employ clinicians from developing countries.

There are plenty of other countries whose doctors are seeking to gain experience in a country other than their own.

Don’t forget that before the Tories trash it, the NHS was the best health provider in the world and clinicians were very keen to work for such a prestigious health provider. I am hoping that labour will begin to build the nhs back to at least a little more like it’s old self.

When this was suggested by the Conservatives there was uproar on a GN thread about poaching staff from the poorest countries and denying them health care.

All of sudden it’s a Labour Party policy and all is well…

That's assuming that the uproar came exclusively from the left...

I wonder how many medical workers there are among the huge backlog of asylum seekers.

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Where are they going to get the extra staff Whitewavemark2?

Have they got a magic staff tree ?

It takes years to train doctors and nurses.

Same place as the Tories are getting them presumably!

Visas for immigrant nurses and doctors, and of course more courses opened for doctor.

Trainee nurses work on the job.

My second cousin was employed to help nhs staff during covid when she was training to be a doctor. She said it gave her huge experience and an idea how nursing staff work and the pressure they are under.

Not sure there are queues of clinicians waiting to enter the U.K.

When this was suggested by the Conservatives there was uproar on a GN thread about poaching staff from the poorest countries and denying them health care.

All of sudden it’s a Labour Party policy and all is well…

I still have lots of contacts, and I know there will be a lot of returners, who retired or left the NHS because they were so disillusioned about the future, buried under a tsunami of patients and fearing their lot was going to get even worse, as it has done. I know three retired doctors myself who have said they will go back in the short term to help out their colleagues. Wiring list initiatives aren’t the answer long term, but if coupled with a sustained investment and training plan there is hope of improvement over the first five years in hospital care.
I’m a lot less optimistic about dentistry unfortunately, I think it’s gone too far for a recovery plan to succeed.

Yes there is that as well. They could move smoothly from an asylum seeker to visa holder. Brilliant. Two problems dealt with in one move.