Labour - party of building?

growstuff

GG13 I was talking about shops in a high street. A number of the units have already been converted over the years to residential units. I don't suppose my town has the only high street like that.

In any case, having foreign landlords siphons off wealth from the UK, whether they own residential or commercial units.

The local authorities need to decide if they want to attract more businesses to the high street or convert to residential.

Great. I am sure the protestors actions will have a dramatic impact on the most vulnerable in society. Except of course they wont as that requires hard work, resilience, etc etc as demonstrated by Starmer over years now.

The so called nutter who threw glitter over KS is a member of a group calling for proportional representation. One aim is to use civil disobedience to further its aims. I share his pain.
The defence of the realm is a very important area of government and the Labour Party doesn’t exactly inspire confidence if security at its own party conference is so poor…..

GG13 I was talking about shops in a high street. A number of the units have already been converted over the years to residential units. I don't suppose my town has the only high street like that.

In any case, having foreign landlords siphons off wealth from the UK, whether they own residential or commercial units.

Whitewavemark2

growstuff yes, particularly where they are either new or being replaced.

So to try to describe it. A long concrete widish building with doors that open directly into the street. Inside there is a mini-bathroom so loo sink etc. quite big.

OK! Fair enough! I've never seen one like that.

I just said what they were like in a post above.

Oreo

Of course, there are loads of those kinds of unisex loos for one person to go in and use.The ones at Conference were nothing like that!

I’ve no idea what they were like at conference I wasn’t there.

But where’s the security Galaxy ? It could have been acid that was thrown.

Of course, there are loads of those kinds of unisex loos for one person to go in and use.The ones at Conference were nothing like that!

Dont know growstuff. I was at a pub the other week with unisex toilets which had signs up warning men not to flash others. Sigh.
Away from loos my patience is very thin at the moment, the utter self indulgence of that protestor. But yes I thought Starmer handled it well.

growstuff yes, particularly where they are either new or being replaced.

So to try to describe it. A long concrete widish building with doors that open directly into the street. Inside there is a mini-bathroom so loo sink etc. quite big.

It is shocking that these protesters can just walk up to the stage unchallenged- he could have had a knife. I thought Starmer looked terrified. How in earth do these nutters get in.

MrsThatcher

Whitewavemark2

Headlines

“Starmer’s speech glitters”

All that ‘glitters’ is not gold.

In this case it was though, he handled that very well.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

There are unisex lavatories everywhere now - it has become the norm. No one takes any notice do they?

Even in a little new forest town the lavatories were unisex and I would have expected what is almost a very conservative (small c) population to dislike the idea, but there seemed to be zero problems - people pottering in and out, men holding the door for the women etc. all very civilised.

I don’t think you get it.
Not talking about the single person loos you sometimes find, but large toilets with a black curtain covering the urinals and a few cubicle loos.Women have to walk past the curtain and find wet floors and toilet seats and dirty loos.It’s not on
Glad they realised their mistake tho as Galaxy says.Guess it won’t happen again.

I must admit I've never come across one like that. Are they commonplace?

Whitewavemark2

Headlines

“Starmer’s speech glitters”

All that ‘glitters’ is not gold.

Headlines

“Starmer’s speech glitters”

Worked to his advantage though😄.

Poor Starmer had an unexpected cold shower on stage!
Probably by a far leftie.

Whitewavemark2

There are unisex lavatories everywhere now - it has become the norm. No one takes any notice do they?

Even in a little new forest town the lavatories were unisex and I would have expected what is almost a very conservative (small c) population to dislike the idea, but there seemed to be zero problems - people pottering in and out, men holding the door for the women etc. all very civilised.

I don’t think you get it.
Not talking about the single person loos you sometimes find, but large toilets with a black curtain covering the urinals and a few cubicle loos.Women have to walk past the curtain and find wet floors and toilet seats and dirty loos.It’s not on
Glad they realised their mistake tho as Galaxy says.Guess it won’t happen again.

All governments want growth, ronib. The problem with Truss was that, beyond cutting taxed for the rich, she didn't actually say how her government would promote it. Just giving more money to the wealthy isn't gong to do it...

Labour has outlined areas in which they will invest for growth all though the conference.

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I refer of course to the famous delivery of one Liz Truss and an apparent attempt to start a 60 strong growth Conservative sub group/breakaway group etc very recently.
As we have all lived through an unprecedented time starting mostly with we believe in unicorns under BJ, I think some cynicism is to be expected…..

Sorry, I should have linked to the Wren Lewis blog, too.

mainlymacro.blogspot.com/

Ilovecheese

ronib

I find Mark Carney’s endorsement of Rachael Reeves a bit disconcerting. It feels as if the Bank of England is only interested in maintaining standard orthodox banking practices and it suggests that Rachael Reeves is definitely one of their own. A safe pair of hands for the Bank. When Labour says the country needs a better growth strategy, that is acceptable to the Bank but when the Conservatives offer the same policy, the reaction is not positively received. Or have I misunderstood?

I feel the same concern about Rachel Reeves.

I have my concerns about Reeves, too, but when I looked at her speech she is talking a lot about investing in public services. That alone would provide a boost to the economy and would help the private sector because, as I keep pointing out, the public sector gets all its goods and services from the private sector and public sector employees spend their wages in the private sector.

Then there is housebuilding and investment in green energy. It all adds up to more money in the economy and more incentive for private investment.

From eonomist, Simon Wren Lewis', blog today:

The government does not invest enough, and partly as a result the private sector does not invest enough. As this excellent report from the Resolution Foundation’s Felicia Odamtten & James Smith shows, public and private sector investment are complements; the former encourages the latter. This chart from the report shows that UK public investment is consistently below the international average, and that average includes many countries that have underinvested over the last two decades like Germany and the US.

Interesting that Reeve's focus was on 'trickle down doesn't work'. Which is correct, but I'm still not sure if she still thinks that the government can't spend until increases its tax take. Because it won't increase its tax take until it does spend..

What 'same policy' have the tories offered, ronib?

www.ukpol.co.uk/rachel-reeves-2022-speech-to-labour-party-conference/

They have apparently had a quick re think when the issue was pointed out to them.

There are unisex lavatories everywhere now - it has become the norm. No one takes any notice do they?

Even in a little new forest town the lavatories were unisex and I would have expected what is almost a very conservative (small c) population to dislike the idea, but there seemed to be zero problems - people pottering in and out, men holding the door for the women etc. all very civilised.