captain Tom's daughter admits pocketing £800. 000

wildswan16

I think it is clear that mistakes have been made, and I hope they can be rectified.

However, I do wonder how each of us would have coped had our elderly father decided to raise such a massive amount of money. The legalities of it all must have been time consuming and complicated.

The point is he didn't set out to raise a massive amount of money. I suspect he was as surprised as everyone else that the sum was so massive.

Dinahmo

wildswan16

I think it is clear that mistakes have been made, and I hope they can be rectified.

However, I do wonder how each of us would have coped had our elderly father decided to raise such a massive amount of money. The legalities of it all must have been time consuming and complicated.

The point is he didn't set out to raise a massive amount of money. I suspect he was as surprised as everyone else that the sum was so massive.

He hoped to raise £1,000.

You can read the Captain Tom Foundation accounts on line at Companies House, plus appointment and resignations of directors.

The accounts make interesting reading - particularly the I & E account on page 13 and the support costs of £465,090 on page 19. This is further broken down into different categories on page 20.

During the 18 month period covered by these accounts the income received was £402,854 of which £190, 899 was the cost of 2 employees for fundraising. On top of that management fees were £160,812.

It's an easy read so do have a look.

Piers is excellent at his job, I am watching it now and the two adults are squirming.

blackbelt barrister comment

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2bXbNO7fOc

I can see no reason why having this much money coming into a charity should be an excuse for the family of the person bringing it in to redirect large sums from it into their own bank accounts for their own advantage. We are not talking about a couple of thousand to cover contentious expenses, or a preference for flying business class.

We are talking about tens and hundreds of thousands of pounds, which the world, in general, thought were going to charity being redirected into the family coffers.

Even if what Captain Tom's family did with a large sum of the money his actions geberated is not illegal or theft, it is still contemptible behaviour.

We continue to hear nothing about his second daughter.
I wonder how she features, if at all, in this unhappy saga. Does continuing reference to 'family' include her?

I'm working away whilst listening to Piers Morgan interviewing the family and shouting at the screen. It's a long time since I've heard such b---s--t.

Dinahmo

I'm working away whilst listening to Piers Morgan interviewing the family and shouting at the screen. It's a long time since I've heard such b---s--t.

Can you explain what you mean? I've only watched the first half, and everyone seems perfectly polite so far.

I never took to his daughter from the first moment she appeared with her father. I thought there was something false about her that I couldn't put my finger on. She obviously liked all the publicity and I too wondered why the other daughter was rarely mentioned. They dragged him off to the Bahamas which probably shortened his life too.
What goes around comes around!!

Don't forget the spa they are having built at their home, that I think was the starting.point for such intense media scrutiny.
Contemptible Family,
Reap as you sow

Dinahmo

I'm working away whilst listening to Piers Morgan interviewing the family and shouting at the screen. It's a long time since I've heard such b---s--t.

The responses that they have been giving. When I have a very quick excuse for something I've done my DH always says that I should have been a Tory politician. I thought the same about the couple.

Reference to the proceeds from the books being left in Captain Tom's will was made above. In fact they set up a company to receive the sales monies.

buffyfly9

I never took to his daughter from the first moment she appeared with her father. I thought there was something false about her that I couldn't put my finger on. She obviously liked all the publicity and I too wondered why the other daughter was rarely mentioned. They dragged him off to the Bahamas which probably shortened his life too.
What goes around comes around!!

They did say that he wanted to go to Barbados - for the cricket.

Buffyfly I totally agree with your post I felt misgivings when I saw them all around him and didn’t take to the family at all and thought how foolhardy it was to take the old chap to the West Indies at his age and in the middle of a pandemic, even if he had said he’d like to go, absolutely ridiculous, didn’t he get Covid, he died very soon after didn’t he?
Wasn’t there a spa or indoor pool or something built with sone of the money ?

buffyfly9

I never took to his daughter from the first moment she appeared with her father. I thought there was something false about her that I couldn't put my finger on. She obviously liked all the publicity and I too wondered why the other daughter was rarely mentioned. They dragged him off to the Bahamas which probably shortened his life too.
What goes around comes around!!

They dragged him off to the Bahamas which probably shortened his life too

It was on his bucket list.

Must remember to tell the DC what's on mine (it's quite long);
they can spend their inheritance fulfilling my wishes.

My nhs Community team got just under £400 of capt toms walking money....we used it to put towards last years team Xmas night out ....I know lots of other nhs teams who got captvtom money as well

Don't think they actually dragged him off!! Apparently he'd always wanted to go to the Bahamas and at his great age, he had rather run out of time. and so you could say that by fulfilling an old mans wishes,he at least died happy.

This is extremely interesting, again by blackbelt barrister, dealing with trade marks, intellectual property and bad faith wrt the books

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Qe4cZPQvM

How did a man of 100 manage to write three books in a year or was it two?

Jaberwok

Don't think they actually dragged him off!! Apparently he'd always wanted to go to the Bahamas and at his great age, he had rather run out of time. and so you could say that by fulfilling an old mans wishes,he at least died happy.

Yes, I agree!

Must add the Bahamas to my bucket list.

BlueBelle

How did a man of 100 manage to write three books in a year or was it two?

I don't think it would be with a quill pen on parchment.

He probably had a wealth of stories.
We should all do that 🙂

I expect he dictated them to a ghost writer.

Of course he did.
Wendy Holden was the ghost writer.
No secret about that.

He must have had a wealth and lifetime of experiences to relate.
I might buy them for DH.

From what I saw of the interview, the issue seems to be mainly with the proceeds from the sale of the books, not the donations people sent to the fund to support the NHS Together charity, which is where all donations went. The daughter and her husband maintain that their father meant the money from the books to go to them. I did notice that the remarks attributed to him, by newspaper articles and in the foreword of one book, merely say book sales would ‘promote the launch’ of the Foundation, not that all proceeds would go to it. It was interesting that Captain Moore had an agent, and I wonder if they have maybe advised the family to put the book money into the family business, who knows?

While I’m sure his daughter did manage to profit from the Foundation ( she did say in the interview that she ‘did have to work for a living’), I think she’s now widely perceived as having actually taken (or ‘pocketed’) £800,000 of the cash donated by the public, and that will stay with her forever, in the same way that people still think the money was donated to the NHS.

the fact that Tom lived with his daughter in her large house with a very long 'garden path' meant that his walking up and down was going to become a business venture for his daughter who had the media knowhow for such a thing.