Starmer’s Dilemma Over Palestinian Situation

It's difficult to see what values a LP which has abandoned basic principles will abide by. I certainly can't see anything which they wouldn't abandon if someone donated enough money or Starmer thought doing so might win a few votes.
The 56 MPs who voted for the ceasefire gave me a little hope. I noticed the Lib Dems voted for is as well. I wonder if they will become more radical than the LP again?.

Corbyn deplores the targeting of all civilians? He certainly doesn’t deplore the murder of the Israeli Olympic Team 1972,
he attended a wreath laying ceremony for the Palestinian Militant Black September who carried out the attack

Anniebach

Corbyn deplores the targeting of all civilians? He certainly doesn’t deplore the murder of the Israeli Olympic Team 1972,
he attended a wreath laying ceremony for the Palestinian Militant Black September who carried out the attack

That was a lie put around to stop democracy Corbyn a peace activist has all his life campaigned against all forms of racism and puts his words into action. Speaking up condemning the Iraq war, Libya Afganistine ect and now the Genocide taking place in Gaza.
Starmer is establishment no change. Corbyn offered real democracy for the many real change.

No lie,he was there,

I watched the Piers Morgan interview, I know what he said, I am utterly delighted he is no longer leader of the labour party.

Starmer’s 2020 party leadership campaign was secretly funded by wealthy British pro-Israel lobbyist Trevor Chinn to the tune of $62,000

Not much of a secret if it's on Gransnet!

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Anniebach

Corbyn deplores the targeting of all civilians? He certainly doesn’t deplore the murder of the Israeli Olympic Team 1972,
he attended a wreath laying ceremony for the Palestinian Militant Black September who carried out the attack

Annie The wreath was laid at a memorial to those killed in a 1985 Israeli air strike on the PLO headquarters ,an action which was widely condemned even by the US.
I post 2 photos one with Corbyn holding the wreath and one showing the wreath at the base of the memorial.
Could we lay this to rest now.

No,

Sorry, I say no because recently you claimed Corbyn had received the Nobel Peace Prize, so not true

Anniebach

Sorry, I say no because recently you claimed Corbyn had received the Nobel Peace Prize, so not true

I have never claimed that *Anniebach. Corbyn has two peace prizes. One the Sean Macbride peace prize, the other the Ghandi peace prize. No other UK politician has been so honoured.
John Hume and David Trimble received the Nobel Peace Prize for N Ireland.

He did not receive the Ghandi Peace Prize which is awarded by
the Indian Government

Anniebach

He did not receive the Ghandi Peace Prize which is awarded by
the Indian Government

Apologies it is the Ghandi International Peace Award.
I always admit when I am wrong.
Any apology about the unfounded allegation that I said he was awarded the Nobel Peace prize?

He still has 2 peace awards.

I apologise for saying Nobel Peace Prize

Anniebach

He did not receive the Ghandi Peace Prize which is awarded by
the Indian Government

As long as the myths are repeated, some people will believe them.
It's called the illusory truth effect.

Corbyn won the Seán MacBride Peace Prize, a remarkable achievement for someone who has been the instigator of so much discord in this country.

Argue as much and as long as you want about Corbyn. He was a dreadful leader of the LP. He was irritable with the press and as the election result showed, very unpopular with the public.

The membership grew with Jeremy Corbyn he brought Hope democracy. Crowds gathered to the rallies He very nearly won in 2017 but for those working for two years against the leader.

He is well liked a good constituency MP

Oh Jeremy Corbyn 🎼

The chant will be Starmer is a Liar come the election. Bought paid for by the Israel lobby.

😂

I often think about his mother and what she'd think.

Corbyn gave the party the worse defeat since 1935

Anniebach

Corbyn gave the party the worse defeat since 1935

And there's been no peace in the party since!

I dont know how to break this to you but people singing songs about you has absolutely no impact on the country. It makes zero difference to the most vulnerable in society. If it did Gazza would be one of the most respected leaders of our country.

Anyone thinking Starmer has a dilemma should watch this.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAnk5JvHH-A

Thanks DAR. This explains the situation perfectly👏👏👏

Thanks DAR, good explanation. I wrote to KS a couple of weeks ago expressing the distress anyone watching the news feels. A had a long detailed response which resulted in me continuing to support the Labour position. This you tube vid does that well

Glad it was useful to you both. The chap doing it is an ex lecturer (physicist) so I find he does a lot of research and analysis and explains really well. Just what I need

Let’s get this straight: it’s “anti-democratic” for constituents to demand their MPs represent their views and comply with international law, but presumably, it’s fine for lobbyists to demand MPs don’t comply with international law. (If you don’t understand how much our democracy has been compromised, you should watch the award-winning Al-Jazeera documentary The Lobby.)