Covid Inquiry

Chardy

Whitewavemark2

Culling old people 😮😮😮

And the disabled

Well it saves on pensions and benefits.

🤔

Looking forward to Johnson being up before the committee. Although, I would assume they still won't have access to his lost messages?

I am surprised at how few posts there are on this thread. I expected it to be as busy as the politics threads usually are.
Why would this be?

I am genuinely curious, not being ingenious.

It possibly because most aren't surprised, the idea that Johnson was in any way equipped to lead a country during a pandemic was ridiculous.
Also I suspect

MaizieD

Ilovecheese

It is horrible to know that this is the way our Prime Minister and his Government thought about people our age. As if we are disposable as long as the economy doesn't suffer. As if we have nothing to add to society or indeed the economy.

Just think of all the people our age who staunchly defended him on GNet

Are any still willing to do so?

I am!! 😜

Also I suspect that any enquiries into covid will only skim the surface. I don't think we will have any perspective on the pandemic for years

I can't get over what an absolutely horrible man Cummings is, his foul mouthed rants, how did he get the job in the first place, he dislikes everyone, has no social skills, no redeeming qualities, seems deranged. Goodness knows how his family functions with him at the helm.Enquiry waste of time entirely predictable and nothing will alter, monkeys would have done a better job.

He is just so insolent!

Galaxy

It possibly because most aren't surprised, the idea that Johnson was in any way equipped to lead a country during a pandemic was ridiculous.
Also I suspect

Well, we all knew BJ was running around like a headless chicken.
His contempt for older people is revealing.

I haven’t watched it, out all day, so I only saw a few clips on the news, all Dominic Cummings.
He is indeed the most arrogant of men, totally dislikeable in every way. I wouldn’t trust him to speak the truth, only his truth.

I actually think he’s probably neurodivergent, Autism or Aspergers come to mind, but as I’m not a doctor, I’m not diagnosing, simply my non medical opinion.

maddyone

I haven’t watched it, out all day, so I only saw a few clips on the news, all Dominic Cummings.
He is indeed the most arrogant of men, totally dislikeable in every way. I wouldn’t trust him to speak the truth, only his truth.

Yes, arrogant and insolent.

And determined to whitewash himself.

It doesn’t surprise me that Johnson thought that older people were dispensable. What surprises me more is that he was arrogant and naive enough to say so, and to put his thoughts into print when and think there would be no consequences. History will judge him as the worst PM we have ever had.

Callistemon21

maddyone

I haven’t watched it, out all day, so I only saw a few clips on the news, all Dominic Cummings.
He is indeed the most arrogant of men, totally dislikeable in every way. I wouldn’t trust him to speak the truth, only his truth.

Yes, arrogant and insolent.

And determined to whitewash himself.

He doesn’t matter though, does he, he’s a bit player not a main character.

🤔 well, I think he thought he was the main player!

Galaxy

Also I suspect that any enquiries into covid will only skim the surface. I don't think we will have any perspective on the pandemic for years

How do you think the inquiry will only skim the surface, Galaxy?.

Do you think that there are further horrors which will never be disclosed?

Probably, but he isn’t, he’s just the current focus for those who want to keep the heat off the star performers. His five minutes of fame have passed long ago, and he knows it.

I don't think that there's any way to whitewash the utter disregard that the government had for the wellbeing of the people of this country. It's quite obvious that they only had economics at the heart of their agenda.
The whole fiasco is beyond disgusting.
People died because of their incompetence

Marydoll

I am surprised at how few posts there are on this thread. I expected it to be as busy as the politics threads usually are.
Why would this be?

I am genuinely curious, not being ingenious.

There are a number of people who support Johnson - emphatically - and these revelations will not dampen it. On the contrary, some will see the enquiry as part of the "witch hunt" they believe has been conducted against him (ignoring the fact that other countries are also conducting their own enquiries).

Judging by past comments during the height of the crisis - there are also those that agree with his 'philosophical' view... that "old people" should, basically, have accepted their fate to allow the younger demographic to get on with their lives - and keep the economy going.

Then there are the anti-vaxxers who believed their supposedly healthy immune systems would deal with the virus, and if it didn't, well, tough-luck really... and I doubt they're interested in the enquiry unless it investigates the lockdowns as a form of government-control, which is basically what they believed the lockdowns were all about.

On the other hand there was the successful vaccination programme - so in many Johnson-admirers' eyes - he was / is vindicated.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't think you realise just how popular the man was, and still is among the general public, and here, on GN. So there won't be any numbers of posters coming on this thread with a mea-culpa.

Although we, who are critical of Johnson, are frequently denounced as "haters" having a sort of pile-on on "Boris" - we are, I believe, a minority - which is why this topic will probably not get the count you expect.

Fighting like rats in a sack is what springs to mind. All these people who were directly responsible for the country's health, safety and wellbeing. Blaming each other and finger pointing, horrible to watch. A CEO/Boards would be up on charges of Corporate Manslaughter, so why aren't these people? Its sickening it really is. Oh, and then they partied!

Well he got his wish didn't he. At one time in 2020 the deaths announced each lunchtime were over 1000 per day
Including my DFiL who died alone, in hospital, his last words begging to come home.

Meanwhile in NZ, where my DS lives, there were a handful of covid fatalities. Jacinda Adhern's government seemed to care about their people

My DH died during the pandemic but at least we managed to rescue him from hospital and I kept him safe from covid at home.

Allsorts

I can't get over what an absolutely horrible man Cummings is, his foul mouthed rants, how did he get the job in the first place, he dislikes everyone, has no social skills, no redeeming qualities, seems deranged. Goodness knows how his family functions with him at the helm.Enquiry waste of time entirely predictable and nothing will alter, monkeys would have done a better job.

Well he got the job because he got Brexit through. He then was responsible for Johnson becoming PM. So I guess he's responsible for the lot of chaos. The fact that he's a bit sweary is the least if it.

I havent come on, or watched barely any of it, because it is all what I have come to expect of any main party.

Arrogance, lies, manipulation, the list goes on.

The reason why I dont vote for all of them.
But people will and continue to do so. Continous switching amongst the bigger parties, in hope, from one to another, as has been done for 60 years or more.

TBH I think it is no more or less what many knew or suspected. There doesn’t seem to be a single government minister who is capable, and it still seems to be the case.

But what I find so appalling, is that the incompetence, corruption and sheer self regard is going unpunished regardless of what suffering and mess to the country they caused.

Dickens, thank you for responding to my post. You have summed it up very well.
I think I may have naively assumed some eyes would now have been opened to Johnstone's failings. I obviously have underestimated the numbers on GN, who still support him.

Another poster mentioned corporate manslaughter, that is exactly what my husband and I were discussing last night.