Homelessness is a lifestyle choice according to Suella!

Germanshepherdsmum

As someone who has had mental health problems for many years, I understand more than you may think. No, I didn’t choose to have mental ill health but I took responsibility for it and continue to do so.

Would you have been able to deal with your problems if you came from the lowest echelon of society, though? Or if you weren’t academically intelligent?

Germanshepherdsmum

As someone who has had mental health problems for many years, I understand more than you may think. No, I didn’t choose to have mental ill health but I took responsibility for it and continue to do so.

And thank goodness, most people with mental health problems are able to do what you did, but some can't and that is why a caring society should have a safety net.

As someone who has had mental health problems for many years, I understand more than you may think. No, I didn’t choose to have mental ill health but I took responsibility for it and continue to do so.

If you have been not been touched by mental health problems, addiction or homelessness, then I think you are very lucky. I, like many others, have seen how easily a life can spiral out of control and I think it's made me so much more aware that people need help, not punishment. Actually, there's not a lot of help around and sadly the people who need help are not good advocates for themselves. Regardless of what some may think, no one chooses to have a mental illness, no one chooses to have an addiction and no one chooses to have no home. If you think they do, then I think you should seriously question your own mental health. Sorry to be so blunt but it's what I genuinely feel.

Yes The tents provide a space for drug taking /dealing sexual abuse to take place without police interference. So much money exchanges hands they become a magnet for crime. Tragically for many addicts it is a lifestyle choice because no one can support an addict if they don’t want help, and their needs are met on the streets.

Casdon

Germanshepherdsmum

We shall have to await the new draft legislation that the tents could be snuck into. It might not actually mention tents at all but still cover her proposals.

It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen in the current parliamentary legislation.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67344806
The way I read it is that she promoted her idea without it being discussed in advance with her cabinet colleagues, who haven’t endorsed it. It will be considered, but won’t be legislated, so won’t happen.

Yes

Germanshepherdsmum

We shall have to await the new draft legislation that the tents could be snuck into. It might not actually mention tents at all but still cover her proposals.

It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen in the current parliamentary legislation.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67344806
The way I read it is that she promoted her idea without it being discussed in advance with her cabinet colleagues, who haven’t endorsed it. It will be considered, but won’t be legislated, so won’t happen.

Tents allow criminal activities to take place out of sight and make it more difficult for people such as this woman to be seen.

Germanshepherdsmum

This is what so many people who comment here,nor take part in polls, don’t see. This is the reality of allowing tents to be pitched. I’m very glad that I no longer work in London.

Tents don’t cause the issues 😄. That young woman would have mental health issue without a tent.

It would be much better if Braverman was calling for action to tackle the issues of homelessness.

But she prefers to cause division and hate for her own agenda.

Just as she is whipping up hate and division over Armistice Sunday.

We already have Tommy Robinson parroting her words - there is a high likelihood that there will be trouble, and this can be laid entirely at Bravermans door.

This is what so many people who comment here,nor take part in polls, don’t see. This is the reality of allowing tents to be pitched. I’m very glad that I no longer work in London.

My point is allowing the tents is escalating not addressing the dire situation of homelessness in a very negative way.

There are many many tents now in Embankment Gardens by Whitehall, it’s become a drug haven, the police are not allowed to enter the tents without a warrant. As a consequence the dealers are able to sell their drugs with impunity, so it’s become a magnet for addicts and those with mental health issues. Today a woman wandered out of the park without any clothes on below her waist, she was battered and bruised and clearly had mental health issues, heartbreaking, God alone knows what’s going on inside the tents. But something needs to be done, about the violence the drug dealing/taking and the prostitution.

There was a You Gov poll on the Homeless issue and it came out massively against describing it as a lifestyle or removing tents. Well over 80% of respondents which is unusually high. Perhaps the govt got the message.

We shall have to await the new draft legislation that the tents could be snuck into. It might not actually mention tents at all but still cover her proposals.

Germanshepherdsmum

You wouldn’t get detail such as ‘my government is going to stop tents being handed out to homeless people’ would you? That’s what I mean.

Well, she was said to be proposing new laws which covered the tents issue, to be included in the Kings Speech, which weren’t there.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67321319
I haven’t seen anything specific as Whitewavemark2 has to say it’s been dropped, but I think her conclusion is correct.

If someone gets a whole life tariff instead of a minimum of 30 years, the need for extra space or staff to deal with that person as a result of the increased length of the sentence will not be felt for 30 years. Doubtless until such time as more prisons are built we will see fewer people convicted of lesser crimes receiving an immediate custodial sentence.

It has definitely been dropped.

But some of the so called crackdown on the worst crimes is being brought in. E.g. whole life sentences. Whilst I am broadly in agreement, I am puzzled how this is going to be achieved. The prisons are in the worst state that they have ever been in in modern times - so where is the room, staff etc?

You wouldn’t get detail such as ‘my government is going to stop tents being handed out to homeless people’ would you? That’s what I mean.

Germanshepherdsmum

I listened to it. It’s simply broad details of the proposed legislation.

I did too, and it was the policies they plan to implement. Maybe Suella was bigging up her ideas which aren’t actual policies which will be implemented although she referred to them as such.

I listened to it. It’s simply broad details of the proposed legislation.

Germanshepherdsmum

The King’s speech doesn’t drill down to policy details.

It does though.
inews.co.uk/news/politics/kings-speech-how-likely-law-2737348

The King’s speech doesn’t drill down to policy details.

Notable that Braverman and her so called policy announcements were missing from the King’s speech.

There are also shared ownership schemes. One of my nieces has one and it’s lovely and cheaper and bigger and easier to heat than her private rented one.

Affordable homes can be for rent as well as for sale Grantanow. It’s the former which are required. How much extra tax are you happy to pay?