Should any marches around or near the Cenotaph this weekend not be allowed?

The judgement of Sir Mark Rowley appears to be vindicated.

President Macron did not say that Israel's bombings were breaking international humanitarian law, so not illegal. He made it perfectly clear he is not a judge. Just he is calling for a ceasefire.

Galaxy

I loathe Tommy Robinson but I also have had deep concerns about the pro Palestine marches, which have included racism, its just a racism that is seen as different from TR's brand of racism.

The police have said that they will review footage and those breaking the law will be traced and dealt with. However listening to a police commentator, they are pleased and satisfied that the peace March is just that.

Fleurpepper

Just beyond vile

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pascal, President Macron has now clearly stated there should be a ceasefire, that indiscriminate bombing of civilians is illegal, and that he hopes others will join him - including the UK and the USA. Bravo.

exactly why I wish I'd moved Fleur

I loathe Tommy Robinson but I also have had deep concerns about the pro Palestine marches, which have included racism, its just a racism that is seen as different from TR's brand of racism.

Just beyond vile

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pascal, President Macron has now clearly stated there should be a ceasefire, that indiscriminate bombing of civilians is illegal, and that he hopes others will join him - including the UK and the USA. Bravo.

Oh how I wish I'd moved to France before Brexit. I absolutely despair of our feeble, unhumanitarian government leaders.. even now that the main hospital inGaza is completely without supplies, electricity, water and food these ghastly people don't call for a ceasefire.. I simply don't believe that they can continue not only allow this genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza to continue but also say that Israel has the right to continue.. it's truly wicked

A total and disgusting disgrace- and they call themselves British Patriots just sick. Wearing swastikas and making nazi salutes.

No families, women ad children there, Are you proud of them Kandinsky?

And again, this is not a matter of a 'difference of opinion' or 'freedom of speech'- it is about intent, nasty, vile, and totally disrespectul intent- at the Cenotaph.

The other March was planned and took place a long way away.

Frankly I think those participating from all faiths and none should be congratulated for their cognisance of this day of sacred memory, and their respectful behaviour.

A peaceful march for Palestine with children and families.

A right wing march tries to reach the cenotaph. Mostly men, some giving Nazi salutes. They throw bottles at the police www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvgk7txA7hM

The march so far has gone peacefully the only problems have been with the people objecting to the march trying to stir up trouble. According to the BBC about 80 counter protesters have been arrested.

I’ve just been watching both sky and the bbc, and am so relieved to see such a peaceful March by those calling for a ceasefire.

I weep at the news coming out of Gaza today, and felt absolutely traumatised when seeing a mother rocking and trying to console her 2 year old daughter who’d had both her legs blown off and there was no pain killers for the little soul.

Callistemon21

Boz

I see Corbyn is in the front row with John Macdonald; say no more.

He is no peacemaker.

But he has two peace prizes 2013 the Ghandi Peace prize, 2017 the Sean McBride peace prize

So, encouraged by our delightful Home Secretary, the far right thugs are out in London punching police officers. Some of them have swastika tattoos I see. What do you think of them Kandinsky? Just a 'matter of opinion'

Just the veterans at the Cenotaph,

Palastine flag wavers standing behind police who are having a tussle with Union Jack flag wavers

Are there any banners calling for peace? Or are they just hate-filled banners?

Was it just the veterans at the Cenotaph who were praying for peace?

They must be so excited

Boz

I see Corbyn is in the front row with John Macdonald; say no more.

He is no peacemaker.

I see Corbyn is in the front row with John Macdonald; say no more.

Oh GrannyGravy why oh why are they allowed to carry that,

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Just had a look through social media at the free Palestine peace march anti-Semitic banners along with the usual chants,
from the river to the sea, Intifada and calls for Jihad the police are not doing a thing…

TerriBull

It's not all about Tommy Robinson and his cohorts, they are clearly exploiting a fraught situation for their own ends, take him out of the equation he's a troublemaker and a loose cannon. It is regrettable that he has waded in, deeply so, for veterans to be told not to wear. their medals as if patriotism is conflated with right wing extremism, which may be the beliefs amongst SOME of the younger demonstrators. Interviews with a few of those that are on the pro Palestinian march appear to be unaware of a whole gamut of factors that pertain to the very issues as to why they are protesting in the first place. They might also bear in mind that the service men and women and anybody else heading to The Cenotaph do so in deference to those who lost their lives to uphold our freedoms, the freedoms and the right to express a point of view. Personally I have found it particularly galling to see banners held up such as "Hitler was right" . Well to understand a totalitarian regime, those who laud Hitler, or indeed his communist counterparts might consider if they came up against a secret police force they might understand the true meaning of living under a far right regime. Free speech is indeed one of the tenets of our society, but it comes with a responsibility imo to allow a difference of opinion, and more importantly not to incite violence or hatred.

Good post, Terribull

It is regrettable that he has waded in, deeply so, for veterans to be told not to wear. their medals as if patriotism is conflated with right wing extremism, which may be the beliefs amongst SOME of the younger demonstrators

It is very regrettable and people like Robinson and his ilk confuse the issue. I include those shouting anti-semitic slogans.

Patriotism is allowed in other countries but in the United Kingdom, particularly England, it has become, because of people who spout extremist rhetoric, something to be ashamed of.

The one word which came through the service I attended this morning was a call for peace, repeated many times.

"For Silverlining - and others on a similar theme -- absolutely NOBODY in Tehran, Hamas or Jerusalem gives a monkey's chuff what protests, marches or banner waving are occurring here, in USA, Paris, or elsewhere!"

That is no doubt the case but many of the ordinary people will no doubt be pleased to know that people in other countries are thinking about them.

Very well said DrWatson, and I think your comments are what a lot of us are thinking. The persecuted Uyghurs in China never get a mention,never mind a march, ditto the Rhohinga Muslims in Myanmar. Yemen as mentioned has had way more civilians including children killed and dreadfully injured in 9 years of war with rebels backed by Iran. No one marches or seems to really to care about them. Syria? Israel suffers a most appalling massacre, which is now being pushed onto the inside page, reacts predictably, and uproar ensues on a weekly basis! Israel, Jews? Could there be a connection here??!!