Should any marches around or near the Cenotaph this weekend not be allowed?

'Allotted'? To whom?

Because the "woke" brigade will label them as "racist" if they do. It's a sad indication of the new "norm" in today's society. I despair, I really do.

There should definitely be a veto on all marches this weekend apart from official remembrance ones.

It’s respect for the fallen, without them who knows where we would be?

Ooops, sorry Grantanow, I meant allowed!
Perhaps I should get HQ to alter it.

maddyone

Following the defacing of a Cenotaph in Rotherham yesterday, would it be advisable for the police to rule that marches in or around the area of the Cenotaph should not be allowed, this weekend only?
A poppy seller was attacked by people in a huge crowd this week, people who have been marching on previous weekends have committed hate crimes by calling for Jews to be eliminated. Should the sanctity of the Cenotaph and the Remembrance Service be at the mercy of the marchers to choose to do the right thing? Why was a Cenotaph thought to be a legitimate target in Rotherham?
Surely those who live in our liberal democracy should understand why this weekend is particularly special to so many people. Those of us who live in this country, a liberal democracy, should understand that compared to so many people in the world, we are very lucky to live in a country that affords us great freedoms, including the right to protest peacefully. Peaceful protest however, does not include the right to call for the deaths of other people, to attack poppy sellers or others, or to deface public buildings.
Why are the London police refusing to use the laws that are already available to ban any marching around this area for for this one weekend?

Hi, can you change the word in the title to allowed please?
Thank you.

I’ve reported the post and hope they’ll change it.

What really makes me cross re Remembrance Sunday, is the people who out of ignorance and prejudice (which they like to think of as their virtuous and enlightened thinking) say that it’s ‘glorifying war’.

The route of the March is nowhere near Whitehall and the March is not due to begin until later in the afternoon when the remembrance ceremony has ended.
The police must feel assured by the organisers that the March will be peaceful as for the most part they have been.
Obviously out of thousands who are peaceful a few may not be , it only takes one to deface a memorial but should the rights of thousands to protest be stopped because of the bad behaviour of a few. It depends on the level of course.
It’s a difficult one and if the March goes ahead and there is trouble at the cenotaph it would be a great pity. Expect organisers will take great care snd do their best to ensure it is peaceful.
In a way protesting about a current war does in a way tie in with remembrance of other past wars.
Passion is high but hope all goes well and is peaceful for everybody’s sake.

The march planned for Saturday doesn't go near the Cenotaph and doesn't start until well after the 11 am 2 minutes silence.

There are no marches planned for Sunday when the usual Remembrance Sunday services and ceremonies will be taking place.

news.sky.com/story/met-asks-pro-palestininan-protesters-to-urgently-reconsider-armistice-day-march-13002192

I'm just posting the facts about the details of the march as reported by a reputable media organisation.

I continue to keep my opinion of the whole appalling situation to myself.

Quite why March keeps coming with a capital M I don’t know. Wasn’t my intention.

I agree with you GrannyGravy. For this weekend only, I think the police should use the powers they have to prevent marches, other than the Remembrance marches on Sunday, this weekend only. The police are showing more respect to the marches than to the memory of the dead, in both the world wars and more recent conflicts, including Afghanistan, Iraq, the Falkland Islands, and Northern Ireland.

The organisers of the march say the route and timing have been changed but I don’t trust protesters to keep away from the Cenotaph. I hope I’m proved wrong - hijacking the sombre remembrance of the Fallen would be disgraceful.

Would also say that I would rather have a police decision than the government deciding about protest We all know where that can lead.

It does seem a pity that out of 365 days in the year, all we who hold dear the commeration of our war dead ask for, is just 2 of those days for us. Surely that's not too big an ask? The other days can be had by whoever and that's ok, but for a lot of us who either lost people, for me my father in 1942, in those conflicts or just want to reflect on their sacrifice in peace, it does seem very sad that the risk of disorder and vandalism of that we hold dear will not be far away.

A police spokesman said yesterday that they don't have the power to stop the march. This is probably right as then the police could choose who can march and who can't.
My own feelings are that the Remembrance Day should not be sullied by some agitators which could happen with the march taking place on the same day even though at different places and times.

It’s a war situation so, yes, they should be banned.

Stella Braverman and the Daily Mail are deliberately inflaming tensions and helping the Tommy Robinson types to find a justification for starting trouble at a march advocating peace.
She will then have an excuse to further remove any right to protest against anything that the Government does.
She is using Armastice day to further her own agenda.

As far as I know the majority or all of the protests so far have generally been peaceful. Why should it be different this Saturday. Sunday’s ceremony is unaffected.

It would be the start of a very slippery slope if the police could start banning marches purely because of the day they occur.

Or worse still, that the government take over. The right of protest is democracy at its most basic and should be rigorously protected.

It’s a day for remembering those who died in the service of their country, not for marching up and down and complaining. I like to remember those in my family who lost their lives and I think it shows disrespect to schedule protest marches on this day. They can march the next day or whenever, up to them.

The police say they don’t have the necessary powers to stop a march taking place. Would we rather the government do so or have protesters disrupting the remembrance ceremony? There are always people with their own agenda who latch on to a protest march.

There would be even bigger protests if protests were banned. The security and police numbers involved in the Remembrance services are mammoth, at least they have some prediction of police required if protests are planned, to ban them and have potential larger unplanned protests and civil unrest would be far worse than allowing them.

Germanshepherdsmum

The police say they don’t have the necessary powers to stop a march taking place. Would we rather the government do so or have protesters disrupting the remembrance ceremony? There are always people with their own agenda who latch on to a protest march.

In any given year there is always potential for the Remembrance ceremony to be disrupted,

As the march is being held the day before the usual ceremonies I don't see quite why it should affect them in any way at all.