The Supreme Court has ruled the Rwanda deportations are illegal

I don’t know the source of your information, but you can’t speak for all of them.

Jennifer Eccles we are not a soft touch, refugees are not treated well and what they want is to work and thats what the government should be facilitating. Instead they spout garbage which encourages people to think as you do

Supreme Court against Rwanda
Many UK people are happy
It makes me wonder
If these people are dippy

Boat people don't fish
They want here for the benefit
Back home begging, return empty dish
Come to the UK, life would lift

UK Supporters do not know
Government make UK people pay
Cancel benefits for your blow
UK Supporters do not say

Lazy people are in their element
Boat people eventually employed
Businesses seek them for employment
Many boat people deployed

UK Treasury lines with honey
And finally, the UK's is left with future pain
For there will be no money
Supporter's descendant's disdain

My name is Osama
The US put me in the bin
Almost my name sake, Obama
The ex-President anguish heavily laden

It’s a totally unsuitable place in the middle of nowhere missdeke. I wonder what ‘suitable’ food they want? Perhaps they want to be put up at the Ritz after a shopping spree in the West End to buy clothes.

JenniferEccles

But we can’t just continue to take endless migrants who just fancy living here can we?
How many people could we be talking about, hundreds of thousands certainly, possibly millions.

Suppose a large number from Africa fancy coming here, or from the Middle East?

How will the country cope? We could be completely overwhelmed.
As it is the housing shortage is in a large part due to the rapidly rising population here, fuelled by immigration.

Our infrastructure is struggling to cope as it is.

Heaven help us then if Labour get in as they would do nothing to curb it.

You sound like a raging right wing Tory. The infrastructure here is due to perpetual neglect and funding cuts by the Tories. How fortunate for you that you were born here and feel entitled to decide who can live here. The housing shortage is caused by not buildings houses. Thatcher persuaded people to buy their council houses then didn’t build any more. Imagine having to risk your life to get to a decent country. You have clearly bought into the ‘either, or’ mindset that has been used in the right wing media.

Germanshepherdsmum

It is indeed untenable. The result of a challenge to the government’s plan to house up to 1700 male asylum seekers in a disused air base in rural Essex is currently awaited.

The SC said that in principle sending asylum seekers to a safe third country is not unlawful, they simply didn’t consider that Rwanda fitted the bill, so maybe a deal will be done with another country.

The migrants were demonstrating outside the base this week. They are saying that they don't have enough suitable food, clothes or blankets and nothing to do. Some of them have only flip flops to wear on their feet. They are only saying what local residents have said all along, wrong plan, wrong place. James Cleverly is the local MP and now he is the Home Secretary, he has agreed with local concern about the place, I wonder if he will change his tune now??? There are currently about 500 migrants housed at the base.

How exactly do you know this? Is the charity you support assisting them?

sandelf

Exactly, they are economic migrants. They talk to people until they find someone who will 'help' them... (Who of course may or may not help - they will take money or a debt on friends/family) and once on their way, return is 'failure'...

Who are "they"? Do you mean all of the them? How do you know?

Exactly, they are economic migrants. They talk to people until they find someone who will 'help' them... (Who of course may or may not help - they will take money or a debt on friends/family) and once on their way, return is 'failure'...

Interestingly I see that Finland has closed its borders to asylum seekers.

I think you may not know the detail of the decision Cornishgreenhouse.

JenniferEccles

‘Desperate people’ ?
Really? As we all know the vast majority of them are young males, economic migrants who turn up here illegally and expect to be housed, fed, given spending money, and the thing is that’s exactly what happens.

I’m very disappointed the Rwanda plan is deemed unlawful, but as I understand it, it’s only that particular country.
Hopefully another country has been considered, otherwise Suella Braverman was quite correct in her scathing letter.

Desperate!!
There's nothing desperate about all the young men flocking to my area, being given accommodation, meals and every conceivable help from all and sundry and still they moan they don't like it and intimidate locals.

Good, the right decision. Very thankful to have been born in a safe country with no threats to my life or that of my family. If that were the case, I hope that if I sought refuge in another country I would be welcomed and helped, regardless of my colour, religion or age.

They are presumably economic migrants then. How do they get here?

But - What do we do? I personally know of youngsters from The Gambia (where I support a charity funding schools, businesses and training) who just get the idea to come to UK and travel here illegally. Are we saying that is fine?

What people don’t know is that in the agreement for us to send migrants to Rwanda, they would then send their undesirables here to us. So basically we wouldn’t be any better off.

This is a problem made by the Conservatives. They need to have safe routes for asylum seekers and proceed their claims more quickly. Also, then issue temporary work visas so no cost to the taxpayer.
This can be sorted out but the Conservatives are either incompetent or happy to have this as an issue as a means to try and get re-elected.
We really need the grown ups back managing the country.

Professionals such as much needed doctors, nurses, midwives etc can enter the country legally with a visa. They tend to arrive therefore, on aeroplanes, not via a dinghy across the channel. Therefore those arriving in this way are not likely to possesss the necessary qualifications to work in our health service or other professions. Most likely, they will end up in more manual occupations, still much needed, but not earning huge salaries and therefore eligible to claim top up benefits.

Thank God for our independent judiciary.

Indeed. All that is the reality.

Germanshepherdsmum

Do you seriously think they would be able to earn enough to pay for rent, other bills and food? Any who have professional qualifications from their country of origin will have to pass further exams here in order to practise. That mainly leaves manual workers, if they can find a willing employer.

Ukrainian refugees with qualifications in professions where we desperately need recruits are unable to apply. Ther visas are short-term too.
They are working in menial jobs.
Where is all this available rented accommodation?

That is the reality.

How can an asylum seeker who has lost all their paperwork prove what qualifications they have and, even if they can, who pays for all the training they would require in order to work in their profession?

It certainly isn’t.

Whitewavemark2

Germanshepherdsmum

Would you like 1700 male asylum seekers on your doorstep BlueBelle? Would you feel vulnerable? That’s what my son and his wife face if the proposal for housing them at the former RAF base in Wethersfield, Essex goes ahead.

Wouldn’t be necessary if the government had been anywhere near competent. They new Brexit would cause this issue - did nothing about it.

Competent or no, this is the reality if you live in this area, or any area where so very many asylum seekers, mainly males, will be residing.Not a great prospect is it?

Do you seriously think they would be able to earn enough to pay for rent, other bills and food? Any who have professional qualifications from their country of origin will have to pass further exams here in order to practise. That mainly leaves manual workers, if they can find a willing employer.

Germanshepherdsmum

It is what it is wwm. I doubt you’d be too keen either. As I have said before, if all asylum claims were accepted where would they all live? They wouldn’t all be able to earn enough to rent homes even if such a number were available.

Why wouldn't they be able to earn enough to rent somewhere to live?