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I am hoping that the world will have a handle on the latest outbreak.

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-Nov-23 14:57:53

Reports of hundreds of children hospitalised in China from a serious type of pneumonia. It started in the north and is spreading south.

The covid investigation isn’t filling me with confidence though.

RosiesMaw Sun 26-Nov-23 23:06:39

OP's post starting the thread is a clear example of concern from the outset.

icanhandthemback Sun 26-Nov-23 23:27:01

RosiesMaw

Just because sone people-and I do not necessarily mean on this thread alone- are not backward in coming forward, blowing their own trumpet and virtue signalling does not mean the quiet, thoughtful majority do not care, just because they don't make a song and dance about it.
Public "emoting" has become all too common it seems.

Well, that's where we differ because I don't see mentioning the plight of the children as publicly emoting when, as you say, the OP's message was a concern at the outset. Neither do I find referencing it virtue signalling. Obviously I wasn't expecting anyone to be beating their breasts, wailing or crying either!

RosiesMaw Mon 27-Nov-23 04:51:08

Those poor children, what a terrifying problem
To extrapolate from this expression of the obvious that only one person shows empathy -or did you mean sympathy - is a bit of a leap.
It's hardly uncaring to discuss the issues behind the problem, China's response, the potential impact on the rest of the world, the ramifications of another possible epidemic, how we reacted in Covid etc etc in a discussion thread. But there's not a lot to discuss other than nodding in agreement at the statement you quoted. Doesn't mean only one person cares.

RosiesMaw Mon 27-Nov-23 06:15:42

Some reassuring news in todays DT

CHINA is to pour more resources into fever clinics across the country amid a surge in respiratory illnesses among children during the country’s first full winter since easing Covid lockdown.
The spike became a global issue last week when the World Health Organisation (WHO) asked China for more information, citing a report on clusters of undiagnosed pneumonia in children.
China and the WHO have faced questions about the transparency of reporting early in the Covid pandemic, which emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019. The WHO has said no new or unusual pathogens have been found in the recent illnesses.
Mi Feng, China’s national health commission spokesman, said yesterday that the surge in acute respiratory illnesses was linked to the simultaneous circulation of several kinds of pathogens, most prominently influenza.
“Efforts should be made to increase the relevant clinics and treatment areas, appropriately extend service hours and strengthen guarantees of drug supplies,” Mr Mi told a news conference. “It is necessary to do a good job in epidemic prevention and control in key crowded places such as schools, childcare institutions and nursing homes, and to reduce the flow of people and visits .”

Katie59 Mon 27-Nov-23 07:14:15

Catching virus does give you a high degree of resistance to that virus but a virus can change quickly and if you are weakened by the first virus you are more likely to catch the second. Those that are vulnerable because of other conditions, should. Make sure they get vaccinated because that give a high degree of protection against a range of viruses.

Some of us had a pneumonia vaccination in recent years, it was age related possibly 65 but not sure, is this the same as the Chinese outbreak?.

Grantanow Mon 27-Nov-23 09:33:04

Recent information suggests the outbreak is not a new virus.

M0nica Mon 27-Nov-23 10:09:46

I am going to say it and duck. What has the plight of the the individual children got to do with this thread?

They are in hospital and being treated, not lying in gutters without treatment. Any severe illness in any one is a matter of personal concern.

This thread is about discussing the dangers this new virus, if it is a new virus, and not a bad year for an already known virus, holds for the rest of the world and the investigation iinto it's cause.

As the OP does, this is quite reasonable considering the shambles the early months of COVID were.

Callistemon21 Mon 27-Nov-23 10:14:01

Grantanow

Recent information suggests the outbreak is not a new virus.

This happened in New Zealand, as I mentioned above.
There was a thread about it, or it was mentioned on a thread, last year, I think.

Reports from China suggested it is a bacterial type of pneumonia, not viral, so can be treated with antibiotics.

icanhandthemback Mon 27-Nov-23 11:42:12

Don't duck on my account, M0nica. If you don't think the plight of hundreds of children is worth a smidgeon of mentioned sympathy/empathy, then so be it. However, I feel differently and make no apology for it. As I said, it struck ME as odd that there was only one person on here that actually mentioned the "human" element.

RosiesMaw Mon 27-Nov-23 11:47:56

Reports of hundreds of children hospitalised in China from a serious type of pneumonia

Are they not “humans” ?.

M0nica Mon 27-Nov-23 12:05:29

i didn't say they didn't deserve sympathy/empathy, I just said it wasn't relevant to this thread.

icanhandthemback Mon 27-Nov-23 12:47:12

RosiesMaw

^Reports of hundreds of children hospitalised in China from a serious type of pneumonia^

Are they not “humans” ?.

You are yet again pointing out the original post rather than the discussion. It would have been impossible to have the discussion without mentioning what the problem was. You can keep picking me up on everything I say but I won't be responding any more. I have said my piece and have no desire to join in with point scoring.

RosiesMaw Mon 27-Nov-23 17:42:46

Merely pointing out that in addition to the one person you make such a fuss about, you have completely omitted OP.
So that’s at least two