Charles III gets North Westerners money!

So the argument seems to be that because there are some mega rich individuals who do harm, it's OK for one family to manipulate and use their position, to influence legislation and create laws which enrich them personally.
Isn't that a bit like saying an armed hold up is OK because there are a lot of burglars around?

Spot on, Casdon. My views today are light years away from those of my youth.

Germanshepherdsmum

Their views may change as they get older. I don’t remember being particularly interested in the RF when I was young. I recall the Queen’s Silver Jubilee being a good opportunity to do some decorating!

We had a street party, a good excuse!
DD won the fancy dress competition

Their views may change as they get older. I don’t remember being particularly interested in the RF when I was young. I recall the Queen’s Silver Jubilee being a good opportunity to do some decorating!

People are more revolutionary when they are young, they kick against the establishment as they always have, and become more conservative as they age. The current young revolutionaries will fall into the same pattern I’m sure.

nadateturbe

On whether the Royal Family is good value for money, 75% of the over-65s believe they are, but only 34% of 18 to 24-year-olds feel the same. And while 80% of the over-65s want Britain to stay as a monarchy, that falls to 37% for the 18 to 24-year-olds.4 Sept 2023
www.bbc.co.uk › news
Generations sharply divided over keeping monarchy - BBC News

Perhaps it is more that younger generations are just not interested, as they were when they didn't bother to turn up to vote in the EU referendum, then complained vociferously when they didn't agree with the result.
Many of them probably have a complete lack of understanding and have given no thought to the ramifications of a Constitutional Monarchy -v- a Republic.

Nadadeturbe wrote:-

" There are people of enormous wealth who have done, and are doing, far more damage to the UK than poor King Charles
Irrelevant. "

I guess so. However it's hard for ordinary people to understand the comparative incomes of the very rich whether they are commoners or landed aristocrats, especially as the very rich, aristocrats and commoners , keep these facts as secret as they can.

The royal family seems to work hard and efficiently , especially the late Queen, King Charles, and Princess Anne, and Prince William seems to be shaping up well.

The problem with the established elite , commoners and aristocrats, is inherited money together with subsequent complex investments tainted by big oil, cigarettes, and other nasty stuff. Inherited great wealth should be go to the state for the public good such as getting cancer care up to the same high standard as for instance Denmark's.

nadateturbe

*There are people of enormous wealth who have done, and are doing, far more damage to the UK than poor King Charles*
Irrelevant.

As the republican supporters are always boring on and on about the monarch being a waste of money, too rich, and head of a damaging class system I think my comment was entirely relevant.

I have yet to be persuaded that the monarchy in any significantly damages the UK.

On whether the Royal Family is good value for money, 75% of the over-65s believe they are, but only 34% of 18 to 24-year-olds feel the same. And while 80% of the over-65s want Britain to stay as a monarchy, that falls to 37% for the 18 to 24-year-olds.4 Sept 2023
www.bbc.co.uk › news
Generations sharply divided over keeping monarchy - BBC News

No shouting here Casdon. Republicans are entitled to their views.
But I wasn't actually talking about an alternative to the monarchy in my earlier posts. I was talking about making the monarchy more acceptable by changing a law which I believe is wrong.

nadateturbe

*There are people of enormous wealth who have done, and are doing, far more damage to the UK than poor King Charles*
Irrelevant.

Glib criticisms which don’t offer viable and acceptable to the majority of the population alternatives to the status quo are what is irrelevant. Most people don’t want a republic, according to surveys rather than the shouters.

There are people of enormous wealth who have done, and are doing, far more damage to the UK than poor King Charles
Irrelevant.

Grany 11/10 for perseverance!

Yes I have read animal farm. I own my home because I worked to pay for it. Have you not read your history?

More of your Republic rubbish Grany. They’ve brainwashed you.

nadateturbe

But MaisieD surely in the 21st century we don't think if was right that the monarch should own all the land and be able to give it to others. Its ludicrous. Time to take it back.

Why? Is it wrong then, that you or I own our own homes? Or that your us bigger or has more land than mine or vice versa? If you extend this you have communism where everything us owned by the state - then a new aristocracy rises out of the ashes. Haven't you read animal farm!

Grany

Hard Working Royals

m.youtube.com/watch?v=c5NpJnw7thY&pp=ygUkUmVwdWJsaWNjYW1wYWlnbiBoYXJkIHdvcmtpbmcgcm95YWxz

More extremist rubbish? I

Did you see the video
Hard Working Royals?

Proves they don't work hard. You can still support the royals but don't pretend they work hard they don't.

You say what about our history the pageantry well we will see more of our history if the RF moved out (they are rich would have somewhere to live) of castles palaces grand houses Tourism would increase more money to the treasury won't be spending £345 million on RF By the way Republics have pageantry. We would be a Democratic country and a say in how our country is run. Ireland President cost £4 million ours is a bit more expensive don't know how we benefit from a RF

Callistemon21

No cake? 🎂

I think he had a special lunch. Which had to be eaten in 20 minute flat...

No cake? 🎂

Oh, he must have been 83 or 84 when he came to us, then.

He wouldn't let us sing Happy Birthday

nadateturbe

But MaisieD surely in the 21st century we don't think if was right that the monarch should own all the land and be able to give it to others. Its ludicrous. Time to take it back.

Time to take it back

And give it to whom?

The estates of those who die intestate - who exactly should take the proceeds? I think the Monarch probably does more good with them than the Government ever would, it would be going to their cronies.

It depends who you think is more ethical, who keeps financial records open to scrutiny.
I think Queen Elizabeth and now King Charles are far more ethical than, for example, Boris Johnson who seemed to "lose" £billions to his friends.

MaizieD

^I met her at just one of three varied, disparate (and long) engagements in one day, hundreds of miles apart, exhausting at any age.^

We had the Duke of Kent visit the institution I volunteer at about 4 years ago. It was on his 80th birthday. We were the second of 3 visits he was making in our area. Not a schedule I'd fancy, and I'm nowhere near 80.

Oh yes, the Duke of Kent has been here too more than once, he looked frail but stood proud to take the salute. He was 87 the last time he came.

I couldn't stand for that long and I'm younger than him!

nadateturbe

But MaisieD surely in the 21st century we don't think if was right that the monarch should own all the land and be able to give it to others. Its ludicrous. Time to take it back.

Don't ask me. I'm really not particularly bothered about where the estates of dead people end up in a couple of areas of the UK.

There are people of enormous wealth who have done, and are doing, far more damage to the UK than poor King Charles. The monarch who was forced to read out that his government intended to practically abandon the UK's targets for reducing carbon emissions when he has been a lifelong environmentalist... And mocked for it in the past. I feel rather sorry for him.

I read that his own Duchy, when he was Prince of Wales, did make over the bona vacantia profits to charity. I suspect that he didn't even realise that his mother's Duchy didn't. Though I think that 'ethical investments' is a bit of a pathetic response to the outcry... However, it's a start.

Hard Working Royals

m.youtube.com/watch?v=c5NpJnw7thY&pp=ygUkUmVwdWJsaWNjYW1wYWlnbiBoYXJkIHdvcmtpbmcgcm95YWxz