National Trust calendar - no Christian festivals

AmberSpyglass

But it’s not a nice little free calendar they gave out - it was an internal document flagging dates that volunteers might not have been aware of. It’s not erasing Christmas or Easter because it wasn’t that kind of calendar!

Do you ever get times when you lose the will to live? 🙄

But it’s not a nice little free calendar they gave out - it was an internal document flagging dates that volunteers might not have been aware of. It’s not erasing Christmas or Easter because it wasn’t that kind of calendar!

Joseann

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, I checked the calendars in the NT shop and all is well. Even the non religious festival of Hallowe'en gets an October picture page in one of the calendars!
I'm neither worried, nor kicking up a fuss, but I can't understand why Christian dates have been excluded in the calendars mentioned in the article. I would be annoyed if the date of Christmas were shelved, but Ramadan present in any calendar.
By the way, I bought myself a nice Fairisle knitted beanie in the shop. I had been looking for one that didnt itch like many do.

Apparently it is the calendar they gave to their volunteers but why exclude Christmas and Easter? It’s like they are trying to stir up trouble. Just keep things as they are FGS!!

I am fed up with the NT in recent years for various reasons but the one uppermost in my mind is their failure to provide a new bridge which they promised they would over marsh and creeks at Stiffkey, Norfolk. It is essential there is a bridge there so walkers can get back off the marsh when it floods. The current bridge has been there for many decades and is just a well built wooden bridge.

They are stalling by saying a new bridge would cost £250,000 but a local builder has offered to make one for £25,000 but they have refused.

However the Bridge fairies have been out and built a temporary bridge which the NT pulled down but the fairies built it back again! 🤣🤣

Well, we know when Christmas is, so when is Easter next year?

Easter Sunday is the first Sunday after the Paschal Full Moon, the first full moon after the vernal equinox and based on the Gregorian calendar. The Julian calendar is different.

Easter Sunday is on 31st March next year.

We can expect Easter Eggs in the shops on Boxing Day, then

Ill blooming feeling not I ll ….flipping predictive text always thinks it knows best

Press trying to stir up I’ll feeling amongst those that don’t check it out
Telegraph 👎🏼

I think it just fuels unhappiness and feelings of rejection. Why these things can never be added without exclusion and so really become inclusive is a real mystery because I don’t know anyone who would be offended that way.

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, I checked the calendars in the NT shop and all is well. Even the non religious festival of Hallowe'en gets an October picture page in one of the calendars!
I'm neither worried, nor kicking up a fuss, but I can't understand why Christian dates have been excluded in the calendars mentioned in the article. I would be annoyed if the date of Christmas were shelved, but Ramadan present in any calendar.
By the way, I bought myself a nice Fairisle knitted beanie in the shop. I had been looking for one that didnt itch like many do.

Primrose53

Siope

I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Deleted Christmas and Easter from calendars!

But they haven't!

So what is this thread about?

Their, not there.

Here, for example, is there 2024 Gardens calendar, with Good Friday and Easter Sunday clearly marked.

They haven’t, though. Their calendars for sale/available to the public all have Christmas and Easter on.

The ‘calendar’ the Telegraph is banging on about was an internal guidance document for NT staff and volunteers which, as Maizie has pointed out, gave the dates of other festivals.

Siope

^I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this^

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Deleted Christmas and Easter from calendars!

I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Primrose53

Callistemon21

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

Exactly, then nobody feels left out. So simple!

It’s the same as some people trying to lose the word Christmas and use terms like Winter festival or seasonal celebration.

Just keep things as they are and always have been. I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this.

Speaking of Diwali, it is a fantastic celebration and the biggest celebrations in this country take place in Leicester where we lived for about 15 years. The food, the colours, the lights it really is something else. All the factories used to be decorated inside by the Asian workforce and it was such a happy time. They used to bring in all sorts of sweets and homemade treats for everybody to share.

I'm sure it's a good idea. For all we know there may already be calendars which do this.

But I suspect that the 'anti-woke' brigade would kick up a fuss about that, too.

Callistemon21

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

Exactly, then nobody feels left out. So simple!

It’s the same as some people trying to lose the word Christmas and use terms like Winter festival or seasonal celebration.

Just keep things as they are and always have been. I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this.

Speaking of Diwali, it is a fantastic celebration and the biggest celebrations in this country take place in Leicester where we lived for about 15 years. The food, the colours, the lights it really is something else. All the factories used to be decorated inside by the Asian workforce and it was such a happy time. They used to bring in all sorts of sweets and homemade treats for everybody to share.

However, just in case your calendar has the Easter date missing, here's how to work it out:

As a moveable feast, the date of Easter is determined in each year through a calculation known as computus (Latin for 'computation'). Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon on or after 21 March (a fixed approximation of the March equinox). Determining this date in advance requires a correlation between the lunar months and the solar year, while also accounting for the month, date, and weekday of the Julian or Gregorian calendar.

Simples 🤣

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter

Germanshepherdsmum

Exactly.

Exactly what, GSM?

The 'moveable feast' of Easter will be on just about every commercially available British calendar. I don't think that the NT volunteers will ever have any problem with knowing when it is.

Smileless2012

Well yes, there is of course an awareness of Christmas and Easter but unlike Christmas which is always on the 25th of December, Good Friday and Easter Monday fall on different dates from one year to the next.

Moveable feasts.

If it's not in the calendar we might not get any chocolate eggs.

Exactly.

Well yes, there is of course an awareness of Christmas and Easter but unlike Christmas which is always on the 25th of December, Good Friday and Easter Monday fall on different dates from one year to the next.

😄 it is such a relief to know that this is such a worry for some people.

Just think, they could be troubled by the homeless or war etc.

I am currently visiting NT properties here is the south and there is a lot of joyous festivities taking place along with some wonderful decorations.

Christmas is in full pelt.

Does it matter? Not an issue for me certainly. I am a long standing NT member of many many decades but have never purchased a calendar. Would rather support little local charities and buy from them.

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

This should be is such a non-story. Internal organisational calendar, doesn’t impact on any Christian festival plans/activities at all, as MaizieD has pointed out. It’s not, because it’s led to lots of abuse of NT volunteers (who have, of course, been spending ages lately getting NT properties ready for Christmas).

There was a fabulous Twitter exchange - hopefully the photo is clear enough - after the Telegraph article first appeared (Helen is the Director General of the NT)