National Trust calendar - no Christian festivals

Especially as their core members will all be white, older and middle class.😁
It’s like the ads on tv now, all falling over themselves not to show white families.

We have a National Trust shop in town, it sells lovely things for presents.
If that's the case with the calendar, (I'll take a look in a bit), I will put my wicker NT shopping basket down and leave.
Yes, annoyed.

Hang on, is that this year's or in future?

Should anyone be interested in this, a quick visit to the Trust's home page shows a range of Christmas celebrations at many properties as always. A search for calendars shows a similar range of traditional publications, including advent calendars.
If the Trust has also published a calendar for non Christian members of other faiths then well done I say.

That sounds bad op.

They pull the stunts as they, along with others, want to change things.
It is all backfiring[Dutch result, riots in Ireland] but that wont stop them trying I dont think.

Apparently the calendar was issued for the use of NT volunteers to draw attention to festivals from other religions that the NT may well be celebrating. It is assumed that the volunteers are well aware of Christmas and Easter.

As such, it seems that it isn't on sale to the public.

It's hard to find the truth of this story as search results are full of indignant stories by right wing papers...

The DT has an agenda. No doubt miffed that the extreme candidates in the recent election weren't selected.

I've noticed the increase in ads showing mixed race families which as far as I'm concerned is a good thing.

I wonder how many of those people "white, older and middle class" even go to church at all, let alone at Christmas.

This should be is such a non-story. Internal organisational calendar, doesn’t impact on any Christian festival plans/activities at all, as MaizieD has pointed out. It’s not, because it’s led to lots of abuse of NT volunteers (who have, of course, been spending ages lately getting NT properties ready for Christmas).

There was a fabulous Twitter exchange - hopefully the photo is clear enough - after the Telegraph article first appeared (Helen is the Director General of the NT)

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

Does it matter? Not an issue for me certainly. I am a long standing NT member of many many decades but have never purchased a calendar. Would rather support little local charities and buy from them.

😄 it is such a relief to know that this is such a worry for some people.

Just think, they could be troubled by the homeless or war etc.

I am currently visiting NT properties here is the south and there is a lot of joyous festivities taking place along with some wonderful decorations.

Christmas is in full pelt.

Well yes, there is of course an awareness of Christmas and Easter but unlike Christmas which is always on the 25th of December, Good Friday and Easter Monday fall on different dates from one year to the next.

Exactly.

Smileless2012

Well yes, there is of course an awareness of Christmas and Easter but unlike Christmas which is always on the 25th of December, Good Friday and Easter Monday fall on different dates from one year to the next.

Moveable feasts.

If it's not in the calendar we might not get any chocolate eggs.

Germanshepherdsmum

Exactly.

Exactly what, GSM?

The 'moveable feast' of Easter will be on just about every commercially available British calendar. I don't think that the NT volunteers will ever have any problem with knowing when it is.

However, just in case your calendar has the Easter date missing, here's how to work it out:

As a moveable feast, the date of Easter is determined in each year through a calculation known as computus (Latin for 'computation'). Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon on or after 21 March (a fixed approximation of the March equinox). Determining this date in advance requires a correlation between the lunar months and the solar year, while also accounting for the month, date, and weekday of the Julian or Gregorian calendar.

Simples 🤣

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter

Callistemon21

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

Exactly, then nobody feels left out. So simple!

It’s the same as some people trying to lose the word Christmas and use terms like Winter festival or seasonal celebration.

Just keep things as they are and always have been. I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this.

Speaking of Diwali, it is a fantastic celebration and the biggest celebrations in this country take place in Leicester where we lived for about 15 years. The food, the colours, the lights it really is something else. All the factories used to be decorated inside by the Asian workforce and it was such a happy time. They used to bring in all sorts of sweets and homemade treats for everybody to share.

Primrose53

Callistemon21

It might be a good idea to bring out a calendar which has all major festivals marked.

We were in Singapore when Diwali was celebrated - such an uplifting festival.

Exactly, then nobody feels left out. So simple!

It’s the same as some people trying to lose the word Christmas and use terms like Winter festival or seasonal celebration.

Just keep things as they are and always have been. I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this.

Speaking of Diwali, it is a fantastic celebration and the biggest celebrations in this country take place in Leicester where we lived for about 15 years. The food, the colours, the lights it really is something else. All the factories used to be decorated inside by the Asian workforce and it was such a happy time. They used to bring in all sorts of sweets and homemade treats for everybody to share.

I'm sure it's a good idea. For all we know there may already be calendars which do this.

But I suspect that the 'anti-woke' brigade would kick up a fuss about that, too.

I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Siope

^I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this^

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Deleted Christmas and Easter from calendars!

They haven’t, though. Their calendars for sale/available to the public all have Christmas and Easter on.

The ‘calendar’ the Telegraph is banging on about was an internal guidance document for NT staff and volunteers which, as Maizie has pointed out, gave the dates of other festivals.

Here, for example, is there 2024 Gardens calendar, with Good Friday and Easter Sunday clearly marked.

Their, not there.

Primrose53

Siope

I am very surprised that the NT feel the need to do this

What is it that you think they’ve done?

Deleted Christmas and Easter from calendars!

But they haven't!

So what is this thread about?