DaisyAnneReturns
I'm sure he, and those working with him did consider that nightowl They, I rather think, know a great deal more about than either you or I do about winning an election.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt however, I'm sure you are aware that, to have any power to change the direction of politics, your party (at least I assume it's your party) must first become the government. To do that they need people who have, in the past, voted Conservative. Where do you think, is a good place to find a Conservative audience? The paper often know as the Torygraph seems like a good start.
Why do you think you know better? Have you read what he wrote? My guess would be not. So what was the purpose of your post? What exactly did you achieve?
This is the only time Starmer mentioned Thatcher. Did he praise her, as the Telegraph said he had. No. They lied.
Every moment of meaningful change in modern British politics begins with the realisation that politics must act in service of the British people, rather than dictating to them. Margaret Thatcher sought to drag Britain out of its stupor by setting loose our natural entrepreneurialism. Tony Blair reimagined a stale, outdated Labour Party into one that could seize the optimism of the late 90s. A century ago, Clement Attlee wrote that Labour must be a party of duty and patriotism, not abstract theory. To build a “New Jerusalem” meant first casting off the mind-forged manacles. That lesson is as true today as it was then.
But, it appears that you would rather believe Telegraph writers than the actual words that were written.
Starmer is right. We need a completely transformative government. Where many old style Labour members (I won't call them supporters because they don’t) have got it wrong is that we cannot try simply returning to 1970's Labour. That isn't what the country needs nor is it what the country will vote for.
Sorry to hark back a few pages DAR but I have only just seen your response to my post.
Labour are not ‘my party’ but a party I have historically supported. Believe it or not I do not accept everything they do or say without question but can apply critical thinking.
You are wrong, I had read what Starmer had written before posting (but not the whole article because of the paywall).
I did not post in order to ‘achieve’ anything. I simply expressed my point of view, which I thought was the point of gransnet forums. I don’t think I ‘know better’ than Starmer or his advisers but I am as qualified as you or anyone to comment on how his words might be received. Margaret Thatcher is someone who raises very strong feelings in the industrial north. He is foolish if he does not realise this. He has to realise that he can’t appeal to everyone, nor be all things to all people.
I find your tone rude and patronising. Just because you disagree with someone there is really no need to dismiss them as ‘idiots’ or suggest they have no right to an opinion. There are many other people, including political commentators whose opinion you may respect, who are saying that Starmer has made an error of judgment here. This is not as simple as you are trying to make out.
