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Grantanow Wed 20-Dec-23 13:22:19

We may need a two speed COP in future.

varian Sun 17-Dec-23 17:03:39

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In the coastal seas episode, we see the devastating scenes of coral bleaching – how whole reef ecosystems which once teamed with life, are now dead, white and derelict. But what exactly is coral bleaching, and why is this so damaging? We’ll explain everything you need to know, in a nutshell…

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ronib Fri 15-Dec-23 09:21:14

Lets

ronib Fri 15-Dec-23 09:00:52

The Daily Sceptic has a piece by Chris Morrison - ‘Coral let’s the Climate Alarmists down again’
So it’s not all doom and gloom - coral is not endangered by global warming and is thriving it would seem. Good.

Wheniwasyourage Tue 12-Dec-23 11:42:44

The trouble is that the vested interests are far too powerful and their voices carry a lot more weight than anyone else's. I find the whole thing terribly disappointing and frustrating and all I can do is my own little bit while our grandchildren will have to live with the awful consequences of global inaction. angry

Grantanow Tue 12-Dec-23 00:04:03

The problem of COP is that ALL the nations have to agree the draft. The discussion is likely to overrun and be resolved at the last minute but if some holdout (because it's not strong enough or not weak enough) then there won't be an agreement. My guess is there will be some last minute horse trading but the outcome will be automatically condemned by the climate activists.

Parsley3 Mon 04-Dec-23 18:23:34

On BBC news this morning, I heard Dr Sultan speaking in reply to a question about this. He doesn't come across as sinister but defended himself by explaining that science has always informed his career and will continue to do so. It is worth listening to what he has to say if it can be accessed on catch up.

maddyone Mon 04-Dec-23 18:12:45

Thank you for answering Katie.

Katie59 Mon 04-Dec-23 18:08:44

Well Dubai is the host, they have the oil and they have the money.

Many nations including the UK are borrowing a great deal to meet climate targets, the oil producing countries are going to supply much of that cash. Oil price is also in their hands, I fear we are all going to be greatly indebted to big oil.

To me Al Jaber seemed a sinister character who knew he had a very strong hand in negotiations and was going to use the power. Oil producers are very prominent sponsoring sports and the media, so we can expect more influence.

maddyone Mon 04-Dec-23 17:47:30

That’s sad, no one seems to be interested or have an opinion on this. Oh well.

maddyone Mon 04-Dec-23 10:11:58

So it appears that oil CEO Sultan Al Jaber has used his position as President of the talks to push his company’s fossil fuel interests. He is reported as having said ‘there is no science indicating that a phase out of fossil fuels is needed to restrict global heating to 1.5C.’
It rather begs the question, why is he the president and why are the talks being held in a country which has a massive vested interest in continuing oil production?
Cynical? Moi?