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Anyone fancy a tory 'dream ticket' of Johnson and Farage?

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MaizieD Sun 10-Dec-23 11:24:58

I can't begin to summarise this article grin

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12845693/DAN-HODGES-Tories-really-call-Boris-Johnson-jungle-foe-Nigel-Farage.html

Diplomat Wed 13-Dec-23 21:14:36

What's your alternative MaisieD ? Starmer and Rayner! I know who I'd choose.

Cold Wed 13-Dec-23 21:02:53

Primrose53

A poll amongst Conservatives shows Nigel Farage is more popular than Rishi Sunak.

But they also chose Truss so I don't have a lot of faith in their judgement

MaizieD Wed 13-Dec-23 20:47:58

Primrose53

A poll amongst Conservatives shows Nigel Farage is more popular than Rishi Sunak.

If that was a poll of members of the tory party I'm not in the least surprised, Primrose53. They didn't want Sunak in the first place and they weren't allowed to vote for leader after the Truss debacle.

Casdon Wed 13-Dec-23 19:37:54

BevSec

Yes yes yes and yes! How wonderful that would be, two of the best ever, to me Boris is up there with Churchill, highly intelligent, hard working, capable and really caring. I can pnly hope this comes off, the Tories would be voted in with the hugest landslide ever!

Irony at it’s finest BevSec, well done!

varian Wed 13-Dec-23 19:26:54

Some may read The Daily Mail for the Health Section, others read it for the Football, others (perhaps most) for the tit-bits of scandal about Royalty, Pop-stars, soap-stars and other "celebs"

How many realise that, while they lap up this fluff, they are leaving themselves open and undefended to malignant political indoctrination?

Primrose53 Wed 13-Dec-23 19:22:16

A poll amongst Conservatives shows Nigel Farage is more popular than Rishi Sunak.

sundowngirl Wed 13-Dec-23 19:12:59

Fleurpepper

The reality is not rude, just the truth.

Weirdos and extremists indeed.

To quote an American actress - that's 'your truth' not necessarily THE truth!

sundowngirl Wed 13-Dec-23 19:10:01

Lovetopaint037

My panic subsided when I saw the article had been in the Mail. Do people actually read that rag for news or a laugh?

The Daily Mail is the best selling (paid for) newspaper in the UK. So it must be doing something right.
Actually I read the Mail for some very good articles one of which was in their Health section. Without a feature on a new ground breaking cancer operation, which neither our GP nor her specialist had heard of, my daughter would not still be here. I thank the Daily Mail every day

BevSec Wed 13-Dec-23 19:09:17

Yes yes yes and yes! How wonderful that would be, two of the best ever, to me Boris is up there with Churchill, highly intelligent, hard working, capable and really caring. I can pnly hope this comes off, the Tories would be voted in with the hugest landslide ever!

Fleurpepper Wed 13-Dec-23 19:08:52

The reality is not rude, just the truth.

Weirdos and extremists indeed.

sundowngirl Wed 13-Dec-23 19:00:47

Whitewavemark2

If it said the reform party I might believe it. That is the party for weirdos and extremists.

But one word

“Trump”

Anything is possible😬

How very rude to call people weirdos and extremists!!!
WW2 Anyone who has to resort to name calling has already lost the argument!!

Mojack26 Wed 13-Dec-23 18:50:06

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🙏🙏🙏please NO!

MayBee70 Wed 13-Dec-23 17:37:48

susz

could be worse - Starmer and Rayner prospect doesn't fill me with joy either

There is a new The Rest is Politics Leading which interviews Angela Rayner. I haven't listened to it yet but it sounds very good. She must be quite remarkable to have achieved what she has given she had such a difficult childhood.

Dickens Wed 13-Dec-23 17:30:12

Cossy

Fairycakes, assuming you’re serious, what exactly about Farage would make him a good PM? Aside from his obsession with Brexit and Mugrants, I know nothing about his policies/beliefs/views on the Economy, NHS, (ooops maybe he wants to privatise this), Education, how he would deal with our huge and growing number of British Homeless, Veterans, Transport, University Fees, and so on and so on. I have heard nothing from him ever about anything other than Brexit/EU/Migrants, our world is about so much more than this!

I know nothing about his policies/beliefs/views on the Economy, NHS, (ooops maybe he wants to privatise this)

Back in 2015 or thereabouts he suggested the NHS "might" have to be replaced by a system of private health insurance.

However, he had to back down and declare his support for a state-funded service because he didn't persuade his UKIP colleagues to go with the idea. They wanted to widen the party's appeal and did not believe that health privatisation would go down well.

As you say, 'it' is about much more than the EU and Migrants ('Brexit's been "done", hasn't it?)

As a free-market libertarian, I suspect his economic policies would not be difficult to fathom.

spabbygirl Wed 13-Dec-23 15:30:31

Johnson & Farage are two of the most loathsome people we've ever had the misfortune to encounter in politics, Johnson is a liar, adulterer, I wouldn't vote for him. He should have stuck with entertainment, which he is a natural for.
Whatever people think about Starmer he gets my vote because Labour are mostly ordinary people who know what it's like living on a budget and will rearrange the NHS since they started it in the 1st place. I don't so much vote for a person, but a party & they have a history of caring for the working classes & thats what I want.

Annma Wed 13-Dec-23 14:01:06

Never in a million years!

Casdon Wed 13-Dec-23 13:17:18

susz

could be worse - Starmer and Rayner prospect doesn't fill me with joy either

How could it be worse susz? Unless you’re thinking Johnson and Trump perhaps?

Cossy Wed 13-Dec-23 13:16:22

It’s absolute fine to rubbish the opposition, but at least read their manifesto/pledges/policies so you’re aware that they actually do have some:-

“ Labour has set out five national missions that we will build our manifesto around and, if elected, drive everything we do in government.

Labour will be focused on outcomes that matter: making sure people are better off, live in safe communities, and have the opportunities they need to succeed – wherever they live, and whatever their background.

These missions will only be achieved through relentless focus. They require government departments working together. Business working with unions. The private sector working with the public sector. And a common partnership between national and local government.”

The rest and the “meat” can be found on their pages

Cossy Wed 13-Dec-23 13:13:51

I’m still waiting to see why Farage would make a good PM?

susz Wed 13-Dec-23 13:13:32

could be worse - Starmer and Rayner prospect doesn't fill me with joy either

MelAnt2 Wed 13-Dec-23 13:03:25

Totally agree about that dreadful right-wing rag pushing for a Johnson come-back, when he lied and lied and lied! The right of the Tory party have no scruples - they’re just in it to line their pockets. We just have to hope that the public sees through them and keeps both of these narcissists out of government.

MaizieD Wed 13-Dec-23 12:11:48

Dinahmo

MaizieD

He’s currently a member of Reform!

The Reform Party UK is a registered company. Farage is a director of the company, along with Richard Tice and 2 others. It is just the renamed Brexit Party, of which Farage was also a director.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/officers

A little bit more than just a 'member'

Reform is not registered as a political party as far as I'm aware. At least it's not on the list provided by the Electoral Commission.

Does it have to be registered with the Electoral Commission in order to field candidates in an election?

Of course, not being registered with the commission means that it doesn't have to comply with electoral law.

EEJit Wed 13-Dec-23 12:09:52

Whitewavemark2

If it said the reform party I might believe it. That is the party for weirdos and extremists.

But one word

“Trump”

Anything is possible😬

Who are you calling weirdo and an extremist?

They couldn't do any worse than Sunak and Hunt. And as for Starmer, God forbid.

There is not one MP I would trust to run the country at the moment. Maybe we should turn the clock back a few hundred years and let the King run the place, he couldn't do any worse.

Dinahmo Wed 13-Dec-23 12:04:50

MaizieD

^He’s currently a member of Reform!^

The Reform Party UK is a registered company. Farage is a director of the company, along with Richard Tice and 2 others. It is just the renamed Brexit Party, of which Farage was also a director.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/officers

A little bit more than just a 'member'

Reform is not registered as a political party as far as I'm aware. At least it's not on the list provided by the Electoral Commission.

Nannashirlz Wed 13-Dec-23 12:02:36

If Nigel ever got that far I’d definitely vote for him. I never thought id say that but he’s the only one considered about our country but as for the rest no chance none of them speak for me or even look like they know what they talking about.