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Plans to tax us for selling on eBay. What do you think?

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travelsafar Tue 02-Jan-24 21:14:06

Will it include people selling items on Facebook market place too. There are lots of small businesses selling item on there as well.

OldFrill Tue 02-Jan-24 20:24:24

Good that Airbnb are having to comply.

Fairycakes Tue 02-Jan-24 20:21:26

Of course people shouldn't break the law. I wasn't advocating anything like that.

Fairycakes Tue 02-Jan-24 20:20:22

Germanshepherdsmum
I was thinking about people selling a few of their own items. The newspaper article made it sound as though those selling a few ornaments were going to be investigated. That did sound over the top when there are wealthy businesses not paying anything, or finding loopholes to avoid paying.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 02-Jan-24 20:04:22

It’s not ‘stingy’ or ‘controlling’, OP. A lot of people make a lot of money selling on sites such as eBay and don’t declare it. If everyone paid the correct tax we would be much better off. Not declaring all your income, from whatever source, is tax evasion - a criminal offence.

welbeck Tue 02-Jan-24 19:56:28

i don't see how whether the item is second-hand should make any difference.
however i freely admit my ignorance of most things financial, let alone fiscal !
as for concentrating on the doms, what about the subs ?

M0nica Tue 02-Jan-24 19:54:35

Any business is taxed on the profit or earnings ie selling price minus the cost of producing or buying the product.

You will need to be operating at a very high level as a private seller to reach the limits, probably having to put something on ebay every day to breech the limits.

If you have the income, you should pay the tax, Why shouldn't you?

Marydoll Tue 02-Jan-24 19:50:07

I have a friend who has made selling on Ebay a business and makes a good living from it. She buys from charity shops and car boot sales and then resells. I admire her entrepreneurship, however as it is a business, she should be paying tax, but I know that she doesn't.

maddyone Tue 02-Jan-24 19:37:38

I thought it meant that a seller would be taxed on their earnings from selling on eBay. However if the items sold are secondhand, how would the earnings be calculated?

Visgir1 Tue 02-Jan-24 19:34:18

If you earn over the tax limit, yes you should.
Many small companies use eBay as a selling platform.

Dinahmo Tue 02-Jan-24 19:19:34

RosiesMaw

Sure you can only be taxed on profit and if selling ones own clothes/ belongings these would most likely be for less than the price paid..
OK I know there may be (lucky) exceptions like Granny's Clarice Cliff teapot, but can you pay tax on a loss ?

No.

RosiesMaw Tue 02-Jan-24 19:18:12

Sure you can only be taxed on profit and if selling ones own clothes/ belongings these would most likely be for less than the price paid..
OK I know there may be (lucky) exceptions like Granny's Clarice Cliff teapot, but can you pay tax on a loss ?

Dinahmo Tue 02-Jan-24 19:16:25

The platforms don't distinguish whether the sellers are selling personal items or are online traders. This means that you may have to provide proof that what you are selling is personal.

There are thousands of people doing online trading who don't declare their profits.

In the past HMRC have visited car boot sales to check on traders and may still do so.

Every body should pay the correct amount of but HMRC should be concentrating on doms and tax evasion schemes.

Cabbie21 Tue 02-Jan-24 19:14:40

Current rules allow people to earn £1000 from eBay sales tax free so most sellers will not be affected.
I think the idea is to ensure that people who make a living out of eBay selling will pay tax appropriately.

PestyOne Tue 02-Jan-24 19:12:50

30+ sales may trigger an investigation, but my sales wouldn't reach £1,735 p.a. (unwanted possessions, ornaments, clothes, etc).
I hope any investigations by hmrc would take into account that folk were private sellers - selling unwanted possessions V business sellers 🤔.

OldFrill Tue 02-Jan-24 18:59:27

Under the rules set out by the OECD, firms will not be asked to share data about sellers who make fewer than 30 transactions or €2,000 (£1,735) a year.

Fairycakes Tue 02-Jan-24 18:48:05

Oh my gosh! I can't believe that HMRC is planning a clampdown on people selling their own belongings online (ebay etc.). As of yesterday, online platforms such as Etsy and eBay have to collect information on how much money people are making from selling their items, in case they are earning over the tax threshold.

This comes at a time when many people are struggling with the cost of living, and are trying to make a little extra income. I rarely sell anything, as most of my unwanted belonging go to the charity shop, but what I do sell was taxed at the time of purchasing, so I see no reason to pay another round of tax. This won't directly affect me, as I sell so little, but I think it's incredibly stingy and controlling.

Maybe you disagree. What are your thoughts on this?