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Another petition for a General Election now

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DaisyAnneReturns Sat 13-Jan-24 22:54:48

Because of the strength of votes on the "Call an immediate general election" petition there will be a debate in Parliament on 29 January 2024.

So why sign another petition? Because it is our only method letting the government know the strength of feeling in the country.

The new petition is here: themovementforward.com/letter/

The Movement Forward are not a pro Labour group. They are anti this Tory government, pro Proportional Representation, and pro politics that support our communities.

Carol Vordman is supporting this. When you sign the petition there is an opportunity to go on their email list. If you are thinking if voting tactically in the GE this will be a safe site to check for your area (I will put others on as I come across them)

Don't forget, judging by their behaviour in the last election, the Tories are likely to setup rogue tactical voting sites. Googling "tactical voting" is likely to lead to one of these. It will be safer to check on a known safe site.

Primrose53 Sun 14-Jan-24 12:32:56

Freya5

Anything the rich Vorderman suggests, who is she anyway, I decline to support.

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silverlining48 Sun 14-Jan-24 12:36:02

It’s never a good idea when in opposition to make policy pronouncements too early because things change and they will be blamed fir not carrying the policy out.
Starmer also promised at the start to cooperate if at all possible to create
Cohesion, which I agreed with because all the shouting for the sake of it isn’t helpful.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Jan-24 12:38:49

DaisyAnneReturns

This was not a thread about war GrannyGravy13, nor do I want to be dragged into that discussion. We are still allowed to pick and choose where we join a discussions, as far as I'm aware.

I am well aware what this thread is about DaisyAnneReturns

I have my thoughts on what should be of uppermost priority with regard to parliamentary debate time, you have yours.

Dinahmo Sun 14-Jan-24 14:15:00

This is a link to the Uk govt parliament petition

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/641904

Dinahmo Sun 14-Jan-24 14:17:08

DaisyAnne The petition that you refer to only has 1433 signatures. The one in my link has 282k. A better one to sign.

Dinahmo Sun 14-Jan-24 14:22:22

Sadly, the election is likely to be towards the end of this year apparently. There is a theory that Sunak wants to be able to say that he was PM for 2 years.

biglouis Sun 14-Jan-24 14:25:46

Ive voted conservative all my life but I cannot at this moment say how I would vote if the GE were tomorrow.

Grannybags Sun 14-Jan-24 14:46:26

biglouis

Ive voted conservative all my life but I cannot at this moment say how I would vote if the GE were tomorrow.

It’s the same for me

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jan-24 14:53:53

Earlier than November for a GE. The ‘young’ don’t turn out to vote in bad weather. The main parties know this. September I think?

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 14-Jan-24 15:07:24

Exactly where have I said ^it's "highly unlikely" parliament would force a general election, Smileless2012?

Why would l say Parliament would be "forced" to do anything when they have a large majority? Surely they will only do anything for political reasons and that may or may not include the knowledge that many voters want an election as soon as possible.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 14-Jan-24 15:14:17

Dinahmo

This is a link to the Uk govt parliament petition

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/641904

Thank you for the link Dinahmo. This is the petition I mention in the first para of the OP. You are right, it's worth increasing the numbers up until they have the debate at the end of the month.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 14-Jan-24 15:24:47

You might be interested in this, Callistemon21

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.

I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 14-Jan-24 15:50:05

swampy1961

There is going to be a General Election anyway - have a bit of patience!
All in good time - knee jerk reactions don't usually have a good outcome. Not that I think a petition will make things move any faster.
I get the impression that Keir Starmer is quite happy to wait so he can get all his ducks in row as he hasn't got a clue about what he wants to do so needs as much time as possible to prepare and all the political parties are in the same boat about what to put in their manifesto!

You are parroting the right wing press when you say that Starmer is clueless.

Have a look on the labour information sites. You will be spoiled for choice!

Last weeks stuff was information concerning intended policies on childhood welfare.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 14-Jan-24 15:51:02

DaisyAnneReturns

You might be interested in this, Callistemon21

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.

I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.

I’m not convinced, judging by the polls. The Libs are not doing well imo.

Callistemon21 Sun 14-Jan-24 15:58:05

DaisyAnneReturns

You might be interested in this, Callistemon21

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.

I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.

I'll bookmark it, thanks.

Smileless2012 Sun 14-Jan-24 16:30:58

You didn't DAR that was MazieD and I forgot to attribute it to her.

toscalily Sun 14-Jan-24 16:47:53

DaisyAnneReturns We are still allowed to pick and choose where we join a discussions, as far as I'm aware."

I thought that was what many others on here were doing. If you want to follow Carol Vordermans lead by all means do so but I certainly will not be signing a petition for an early election because she suggests I should. To many other serious matters to deal with first and I want to see how many other skeletons may be brought out of the closet by the PO Scandal. The petitions relating to that affair I did sign, far more worth worthwhile.

greenlady102 Sun 14-Jan-24 16:56:48

Bodach

My immediate reaction to learning that Carol 'Vordman' (sic) supports something is generally to oppose it...
So no thanks.

My first thought was the same. And no I do not want an election now.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 14-Jan-24 17:24:29

Where did I say I had a particular interest in Carole Vorderman toscalily? All I did was describe who they are and what their aims are as general information.

I'm glad you feel you did what was right for you but you really don't need to give such a comprehensive explanation why you do, for my sake.

toscalily Sun 14-Jan-24 17:46:14

DAR It is an open discussion, who knows someone else might just be interested in my views so no need to be sarcastic.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 14-Jan-24 17:51:35

Given the information supplied by Dinahmo, just how informed are Carole Vorderman and her associates? And given that they describe inflation as ‘booming’, how long has it taken them to acquire this pitiful number of signatures? Clearly aimed at those who are influenced by ‘celebrities’ and can’t spot the misplaced apostrophe in ‘its’. Do they really impress you DAR?

JenniferEccles Sun 14-Jan-24 18:04:56

I’m perfectly certain I am not in the minority in finding Carol Vorderman irritating. Ditto Lineker.

Anyway the timing of the election is of course decided by the Tories and no petition will force their hand to call it earlier than they want.

It’s not a straightforward situation we have.
As far as I can see there is very little enthusiasm for either Starmer’s socialism, or the Lib Dems, who at one point openly admitted that they were in favour of legalising drugs and defunding the police.

Like a few others on here I have always voted Conservative and, despite not being entirely happy with things at the moment, have no appetite whatsoever for the other two.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Jan-24 18:14:48

JenniferEccles I also usually vote Conservative in general elections, to date no other parties have inspired me.

I am politically homeless.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 14-Jan-24 18:20:26

I agree with you absolutely Jennifer.

toscalily Sun 14-Jan-24 18:24:37

So we wait, hoping for some drastic change, a miracle that won't happen before we have to choose. Vote when we have so little faith in any of them or don't vote, something I have never done before.