Waste of time. The Tory Turkeys will hang on as long as possible to collect their fat pay cheques and expenses and allowances and then they'll be getting a pay off for loss of office plus a generous pension.
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Another petition for a General Election now
(83 Posts)Because of the strength of votes on the "Call an immediate general election" petition there will be a debate in Parliament on 29 January 2024.
So why sign another petition? Because it is our only method letting the government know the strength of feeling in the country.
The new petition is here: themovementforward.com/letter/
The Movement Forward are not a pro Labour group. They are anti this Tory government, pro Proportional Representation, and pro politics that support our communities.
Carol Vordman is supporting this. When you sign the petition there is an opportunity to go on their email list. If you are thinking if voting tactically in the GE this will be a safe site to check for your area (I will put others on as I come across them)
Don't forget, judging by their behaviour in the last election, the Tories are likely to setup rogue tactical voting sites. Googling "tactical voting" is likely to lead to one of these. It will be safer to check on a known safe site.
The issue could be just getting people to Vote.
Folks are fed up with the lot of them which will possibly result on a low turn out.
I would try reading the cover of the Tory supporting Telegraph today JenniferEccles. It might give you a different view.
JenniferEccles
I’m perfectly certain I am not in the minority in finding Carol Vorderman irritating. Ditto Lineker.
Anyway the timing of the election is of course decided by the Tories and no petition will force their hand to call it earlier than they want.
It’s not a straightforward situation we have.
As far as I can see there is very little enthusiasm for either Starmer’s socialism, or the Lib Dems, who at one point openly admitted that they were in favour of legalising drugs and defunding the police.
Like a few others on here I have always voted Conservative and, despite not being entirely happy with things at the moment, have no appetite whatsoever for the other two.
The point is though JenniferEccles, it’s not those who ‘have always voted x, y or z’ that will have any influence on the election result. Your antipathy toward Starmer is counteracted by somebody else’s towards the last, this, or whoever will be the next Tory leader.
In my opinion it will actually end up being pretty straightforward for most voters, because the overwhelming wish the electorate has is for change, and the floaters will vote for any candidate who isn’t a Tory.
I was reading recently that despite Starmer being ahead in the polls, it is said that up to a third of voters are still undecided.
Interesting times ahead!
Smileless2012
You didn't DAR that was MazieD and I forgot to attribute it to her.
You said that parliament 'didn't have the power'to force a general election'. I was merely correcting you.
My post was in no way connected to the probable date of the next GE or what parliament does or doesn't know...
Oreo
Callistemon21
I'd rather a planned one at some time this year than a rushed General Election in the immediate future.
The Lib Dem leader is in serious trouble at the moment for his role in the Post Office scandal (more is coming out about his attitude at the time and his refusal to apologise now) - we don't know if he will be forced to resign.
That would leave an important party of opposition vulnerable.I agree, add to that the unstable middle east and ukraine.
There’s a GE taking place later this year anyway and that’s good enough for me.
And for me.
So we wait, hoping for some drastic change, a miracle that won't happen before we have to choose. Vote when we have so little faith in any of them or don't vote, something I have never done before.
I agree with you absolutely Jennifer.
JenniferEccles I also usually vote Conservative in general elections, to date no other parties have inspired me.
I am politically homeless.
I’m perfectly certain I am not in the minority in finding Carol Vorderman irritating. Ditto Lineker.
Anyway the timing of the election is of course decided by the Tories and no petition will force their hand to call it earlier than they want.
It’s not a straightforward situation we have.
As far as I can see there is very little enthusiasm for either Starmer’s socialism, or the Lib Dems, who at one point openly admitted that they were in favour of legalising drugs and defunding the police.
Like a few others on here I have always voted Conservative and, despite not being entirely happy with things at the moment, have no appetite whatsoever for the other two.
Given the information supplied by Dinahmo, just how informed are Carole Vorderman and her associates? And given that they describe inflation as ‘booming’, how long has it taken them to acquire this pitiful number of signatures? Clearly aimed at those who are influenced by ‘celebrities’ and can’t spot the misplaced apostrophe in ‘its’. Do they really impress you DAR?
DAR It is an open discussion, who knows someone else might just be interested in my views so no need to be sarcastic.
Where did I say I had a particular interest in Carole Vorderman toscalily? All I did was describe who they are and what their aims are as general information.
I'm glad you feel you did what was right for you but you really don't need to give such a comprehensive explanation why you do, for my sake.
Bodach
My immediate reaction to learning that Carol 'Vordman' (sic) supports something is generally to oppose it...
So no thanks.
My first thought was the same. And no I do not want an election now.
DaisyAnneReturns We are still allowed to pick and choose where we join a discussions, as far as I'm aware."
I thought that was what many others on here were doing. If you want to follow Carol Vordermans lead by all means do so but I certainly will not be signing a petition for an early election because she suggests I should. To many other serious matters to deal with first and I want to see how many other skeletons may be brought out of the closet by the PO Scandal. The petitions relating to that affair I did sign, far more worth worthwhile.
You didn't DAR that was MazieD and I forgot to attribute it to her.
DaisyAnneReturns
You might be interested in this, Callistemon21
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.
I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.
I'll bookmark it, thanks.
DaisyAnneReturns
You might be interested in this, Callistemon21
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.
I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.
I’m not convinced, judging by the polls. The Libs are not doing well imo.
swampy1961
There is going to be a General Election anyway - have a bit of patience!
All in good time - knee jerk reactions don't usually have a good outcome. Not that I think a petition will make things move any faster.
I get the impression that Keir Starmer is quite happy to wait so he can get all his ducks in row as he hasn't got a clue about what he wants to do so needs as much time as possible to prepare and all the political parties are in the same boat about what to put in their manifesto!
You are parroting the right wing press when you say that Starmer is clueless.
Have a look on the labour information sites. You will be spoiled for choice!
Last weeks stuff was information concerning intended policies on childhood welfare.
You might be interested in this, Callistemon21
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtsNdR0BCk Have millennials forgiven the Lib Dems? | The New Statesman podcast.
I sounds as if the interests of the millennials has widened. I imagine it's the reverse of older people becoming more conservative - although less so in recent years apparently.
Dinahmo
This is a link to the Uk govt parliament petition
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/641904
Thank you for the link Dinahmo. This is the petition I mention in the first para of the OP. You are right, it's worth increasing the numbers up until they have the debate at the end of the month.
Exactly where have I said ^it's "highly unlikely" parliament would force a general election, Smileless2012?
Why would l say Parliament would be "forced" to do anything when they have a large majority? Surely they will only do anything for political reasons and that may or may not include the knowledge that many voters want an election as soon as possible.
Earlier than November for a GE. The ‘young’ don’t turn out to vote in bad weather. The main parties know this. September I think?
biglouis
Ive voted conservative all my life but I cannot at this moment say how I would vote if the GE were tomorrow.
It’s the same for me
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