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Pleased to hear that we have accepted a few asylum seekers from Rwanda😄😄

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-Jan-24 11:55:50

The Tories are going to die on this hill aren’t they?

varian Mon 15-Jan-24 12:02:43

Six people from Rwanda have been granted asylum in Britain since the Government signed its deportation deal with the country in 2022, i can reveal.

i analysis of Home Office figures shows that 33 asylum applications have been lodged in the UK on behalf of 51 people from Rwanda since the deal was first announced in April 2022. Of those, six have been granted asylum in the UK.

It includes two men from Rwanda who were offered a grant of protection by the Home Office in 2022, and a woman who received the same in 2023. A further three people from Rwanda were granted asylum in Britain under the UK’s resettlement scheme in 2022 after first trying to lodge an asylum case in Kenya.

It means more asylum seekers have arrived in Britain from Rwanda than vice versa since the agreement was signed, which still stands at zero. It comes despite the UK Government paying Kigali £240m for the partnership so far, with a further £50m payment expected later this year.

Experts told i it “fatally undermines” the UK Government’s controversial claim that Rwanda is a safe third country to send asylum seekers who arrive in Britain.

Dominic Grieve, the former Tory attorney general, said: “Clearly, if we are granting asylum to individuals from Rwanda, it does call into question how Rwanda can be described as a safe country because it’s plainly not safe for those people… Simple as that.”

Lord Alfred Dubs, a senior Labour peer and former child refugee who fled the Nazis, said: “This is very significant because it confirms what the Supreme Court said, and it makes a nonsense of a bill that deems Rwanda to be safe.

“It undermines the whole logic of the thing. It makes a nonsense of the Government’s efforts to override the Supreme Court.”

inews.co.uk/news/uk-granted-asylum-rwandans-after-deportation-deal-deemed-country-safe-2853627

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-Jan-24 12:08:57

varian thank you for filling in. I am lazy!

Blinko Mon 15-Jan-24 12:13:39

I do wonder whether many people realise this is a two way arrangement...

MaizieD Mon 15-Jan-24 12:25:05

What I don't understand is why we are granting asylum to people from a 'safe country'. 😇

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Grantanow Mon 15-Jan-24 12:27:38

Clearly demonstrates Rwanda is not an entirely safe place.
The Tory Bill won't make it one but this is all about appealing to racist and ignorant voters in an election year. In practice it won't make any difference to the result as there are so many other failings laid at the Tory door that they can't recover. They ought to go now.

Elrel Mon 15-Jan-24 13:18:32

How ironic!

Grannybags Mon 15-Jan-24 13:22:39

Ha ha! 🤣

Oreo Mon 15-Jan-24 14:27:18

Depends what the six people who asked for asylum here had done to annoy the government in Rwanda, political maybe?
Am not so sure this is the hill the tories will die on, if it’s passed in Parliament and people are flown to Rwanda then as a deterrent it will start to work.
I don’t think either way there is time for it to affect the prospects of the tories as it’s pretty clear now that Labour are going to win with a large majority.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-Jan-24 14:53:56

oreo I certainly would not count your chickens - polls are consistently wrong and look at the level of undecideds.

HousePlantQueen Mon 15-Jan-24 14:56:42

I sometimes feel as if I am living in some kind of alternative world where logic, common sense, morality are voluntary.....I can just about accept why this desperate government are hanging their hat on Rwanda as a magical and mysterious and totally illogical solution to the number of migrants, but I just don't understand how anyone on the outside of the weird world of government, anyone who reads, takes time to inform themselves, can possibly think that £140m+ to exchange 200 desperate people for another 200 people of unknown criminality is a good idea.

varian Mon 15-Jan-24 18:18:29

When i first heard of this Rwanda policy, I had to check that it was not 1st April - a sick joke, utterly ridiculous on every level.

But then I had the same reaction when I heard that Councils who had to sell council houses at a knock down price would be forbidden from using the proceeds to build more.

When I heard that proposals for privitising the utilities, the railways, water for goodness sake.

When I heard that some people wanted us to leave the EU.

All nonsense, absurd policies.

If anyone dares to point this out, it is like the little boy shouting that the emperor has no clothes.

flappergirl Mon 15-Jan-24 20:39:21

varian

When i first heard of this Rwanda policy, I had to check that it was not 1st April - a sick joke, utterly ridiculous on every level.

But then I had the same reaction when I heard that Councils who had to sell council houses at a knock down price would be forbidden from using the proceeds to build more.

When I heard that proposals for privitising the utilities, the railways, water for goodness sake.

When I heard that some people wanted us to leave the EU.

All nonsense, absurd policies.

If anyone dares to point this out, it is like the little boy shouting that the emperor has no clothes.

Yep, same here varian.

Dinahmo Mon 15-Jan-24 20:57:10

It beggars belief. The sooner we get rid of this govt the better.

Wheniwasyourage Mon 15-Jan-24 21:39:15

I still worry that people will be so sure that the Tories will lose the election that they will not bother to vote. That happened with the Brexit referendum, remember...

Mamie Tue 16-Jan-24 05:52:04

Dinahmo

It beggars belief. The sooner we get rid of this govt the better.

At least we can vote now Dinahmo. 😊

Bonnybanko Tue 16-Jan-24 06:31:51

This is brilliant ... 😂😂😂

Matt Hancock was doing an annual visit to a hospital. As always, he was looking for something to beat the NHS with to show how badly run and loss making things were there.
Hancock checked all the books and then did his tour. While on the tour he turned to the ward manager and said, "I notice you buy and use a lot of bandages. What do you do with the plastic middle out of the roll?" "Good question", noted the ward manager, "we save them up and send them back to Johnson and Johnson and every once in a while, they send us a free bandage roll. We like recycle whenever possible." "Oh" he said somewhat disappointed that his unusual question had a practical answer. But on he went in his tour to the next ward. "What about all these coloured casts you dispense. They seem to be rather a waste of money?"
"Ah, yes", replied the ward manager realizing that Hancock was trying to trap her, "we ask that any patient wishing a coloured cast donates £1 which is far in excess of the 10p the colouring actually costs". Hancock was determined to fluster the ward manager. So on they went to the next ward. "Well, what do you do with all the remains from the circumcision surgeries?" "Here too we do not like wasting", said the manager.
"What we do is save all the little foreskins and send them to the government in London and about once a year, at this exact time, they send us a complete prick". 🤣

Curtaintwitcher Tue 16-Jan-24 06:53:09

It still feels as though we have children playing at being politicians. When are the adults going to arrive and sort things out?

nanna8 Tue 16-Jan-24 07:40:10

I still don’t get why Rwanda of all the places on earth.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Jan-24 07:44:38

Because no one else will cooperate with our crap schemes.

BlueBelle Tue 16-Jan-24 08:09:45

I love that bonnybanko 🤣🤣🤣

Grantanow Tue 16-Jan-24 10:44:55

Love it, Bonnybanko. Trouble is, Westminster never runs out of them.

Dinahmo Tue 16-Jan-24 22:08:23

Me too.

JaneJudge Tue 16-Jan-24 22:18:53

Bonnybanko

This is brilliant ... 😂😂😂

Matt Hancock was doing an annual visit to a hospital. As always, he was looking for something to beat the NHS with to show how badly run and loss making things were there.
Hancock checked all the books and then did his tour. While on the tour he turned to the ward manager and said, "I notice you buy and use a lot of bandages. What do you do with the plastic middle out of the roll?" "Good question", noted the ward manager, "we save them up and send them back to Johnson and Johnson and every once in a while, they send us a free bandage roll. We like recycle whenever possible." "Oh" he said somewhat disappointed that his unusual question had a practical answer. But on he went in his tour to the next ward. "What about all these coloured casts you dispense. They seem to be rather a waste of money?"
"Ah, yes", replied the ward manager realizing that Hancock was trying to trap her, "we ask that any patient wishing a coloured cast donates £1 which is far in excess of the 10p the colouring actually costs". Hancock was determined to fluster the ward manager. So on they went to the next ward. "Well, what do you do with all the remains from the circumcision surgeries?" "Here too we do not like wasting", said the manager.
"What we do is save all the little foreskins and send them to the government in London and about once a year, at this exact time, they send us a complete prick". 🤣

😂😂😂😂😂

Grantanow Thu 18-Jan-24 14:43:51

The Tories have principles and, as Grouch Marx said, if you don't like them, well...they have others.