Trump crushes his Republican rivals in the Iowa caucus!

HE IS NOT LEADING THE WORLD. America is not the World

On the same principle, the USA is not America. It’s not even North America.

Oldbat1

How can anyone vote for this dreadful man i really despair! He should be in jail. Same as those in this country who “loved” Johnson.

"Trumphet" is a total vulgar, dictatorial, insane madman ..

A scary scenario to say the least with his buddy "Putin" ..

merlotgran

^And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.^

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

You won’t get any applause from me, LondonMzFitz.You sound like a bully.

You obviously didn’t spot the word, think.

Take out the "I think" and you are left with - "the world is a safer place with Trump leading it".

Trump Does Not Lead The World.

I will ponder on that theory!! 😃

Whitewavemark2

ronib

I think paradoxically that Putin would not have taken on Ukraine if Trump had been president at that time. Trump is unpredictable and his lunacy kept Putin from acting. Just a thought.

Quite an interesting take

I agree with that actually. I once got in a car with a friend who drove very erratically. He rode a bike in the same way. Middle of the road and all over the place. He never had an accident because motorists had no idea what he was going to do next so avoided him. Trump is imo a political version of my friend. I never got in a car with him again, though!

LondonMzFitz

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

The whole thing, troops out of Afghanistan, was set in motion by President Trump who made a deal with the taliban to do so.
Biden merely went along with it.

Urmstongran has no need to apologise for anything whatsoever, LondonMcFitz

I don't agree with her but she's entitled to say what she thinks within GN guidelines.

Urmstongran Thank you for giving your reasons fot supporting Trump.

I’m afraid I don’t agree with your thinking. But we are all entitled to our opinions, as you, quite rightly point out.

Agree with what Merlotgran just said. Nobody need apologise for saying what they think.

And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

You won’t get any applause from me, LondonMzFitz.You sound like a bully.

You obviously didn’t spot the word, think.

Oreo

vegansrock

There’s a lot of stupid people about .

A lot of the voters who vote for Trump are not stupid tho, so that doesn’t wash.
The US is a vastly different place to the UK.

They aren’t stupid, but they have lost sight of their moral compass. I don’t think anybody would tell them not to vote Republican if that aligns with their values - just not to vote for a morally bankrupt and dangerous criminal. Charisma is way overrated, it doesn’t make people good politicians just because they possess it.

It’s a discussion forum London. You’ll have your viewpoint. I have mine. We are poles apart politically. I won’t be able to persuade you on this forum, nor you me. That’s okay. We just have to agree to disagree. I don’t get her up nor do I say mean things about other posters. I’m not that kind of a person.

Unlike Hillary Clinton who called Trump supporters ‘deplorables’. 😮

I was asked upthread to give my reasons for supporting Trump. I have done so.

Respectfully yours,

Oreo I didn’t say all Trump supporters are stupid - just a lot . Its fine for Trump to call people stupid though?

👏👏👏

LondonMsFitz 👍🏻👏👏

Trump is a dangerous, corrupt misogynist. He lies easily and about whatever he thinks will work for him. He isn’t leading the world urmston, he’s leading a country that needs much better than the two current candidates

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

Urmstongran

Wars under Obama-7
Wars under Trump - none...and yet Trump is somehow the warmonger? I don’t think so.

He genuinely puts America first. And he has the measure of Russia, Iran and China.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

Obama inherited the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

It simply isn't reasonable to think the "need" for war only existed while Obama (and now Biden) were/are in office. I'd put it that Trump and his advisors didn't give enough attention to foreign policy to give a damn about anywhere else. The phrase "America First" could be, under Trump, continued with "and screw anywhere else", in my opinion.

And America First is puzzling for me; when I encounter Americans inevitably in the conversation they will tell me their ancestry - Irish / German / Scottish etc - (I have a very Irish surname) but this apparent dislike / hatred of immigrants for Trump supporters is universal. Is it just the brown people?

And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

HE IS NOT LEADING THE WORLD. America is not the World. He is not leading other countries. Trump is generally held in distain by other Country Leaders. I'll supply some links if required.

I do think supporters of Trump and his fellow Republicans will watch the same news outlets, read the same press, follow the same people who all follow the same script and are (I'm going to be controversial now) too stupid, too dumb, to go and do their own research, to go and check other sources.

Callistemon21

That's idealistic, that's wonderful, that's a beautiful thing.
It's nice.
We love winners. We love winners. Winners are winners.

Just what the world needs!

😂
And it’s gonna happen real soon, real soon folks. Beautiful!

vegansrock

There’s a lot of stupid people about .

A lot of the voters who vote for Trump are not stupid tho, so that doesn’t wash.
The US is a vastly different place to the UK.

I’m fascinated that pro-Trump people think his policy re North Korea was somehow good for the USA, when, in fact, it was a political and diplomatic coup for North Korea (which culminated, of course, in Kim Jong Un unveiling the country’s biggest ever inter-continental missile).

North Korean leaders had long sought the political legitimacy, prestige and leverage that public meetings with a US president would provide, and Trump fell for it, apparently believing that he had persuaded Kim to meet.

He treated the summit as some kind of victory in itself, whereas what it really demonstrated was that Kim’s strategy of developing and testing nuclear weapons had worked, and forced the most powerful hostile imperialist government (as North Koreans see it) to treat North Korea with respect.

The only concessions - reduced US involvement in protecting South Korea, essentially - came from Trump, undermining his own officials in the process, in return for vague (and rapidly u-turned) ‘promises’ about nuclear disarmament - the same pledges Kim’s gather and grandfather had made.

The main benefit of the meetings with Trump was helping North Korea repair its increasingly fractious relationships with China and Putin, a triumvirate which quite clearly does not have the USA’s best interests at its heart.

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

Re Trump - Tax cuts; a successful economy; oil and gas exploration; low inflation; keeping Xi, Jong-Un, Putin and the mullahs in their boxes; the Abraham Accords; made good progress with the southern border; holding at bay the tsunami of leftist horror that has engulfed the country since he left office.

There’s a lot of stupid people about .

Agree with both Grantanow and Casdon

ronib

I think paradoxically that Putin would not have taken on Ukraine if Trump had been president at that time. Trump is unpredictable and his lunacy kept Putin from acting. Just a thought.

Quite an interesting take