The Lords have voted against the Rwanda Bill

I have never been 'amused' by the tragedy of people smugglers, of migrants so desperate to escape that they risk being launched in an inflatable dinghy on a dark, cold night.

Agreed, HPQ

I laugh at the failure of Sunak's attempt to use the plight of these poor people to a perceived political advantage by breaking international law and attempting to legislate that black is actually white...

I laugh at Farage for not understanding the function of an upper house.

Doesn’t matter how much you try and back track, some of you find this subject amusing.
Doesn’t matter whether you’re laughing at our PM or Nigel Farage, the fact is you’re laughing at the situation.
Maybe you should have a bit more compassion. I know not everyone is great on chat forums and often don’t realize how they come across. But smiling emojis on a subject like this is pretty sick.

What makes me sick is the government saying the Rwanda scheme is because they’re so worried about people dying in the channel whereas what they’re really doing it for is to harness the racist vote in this country.

The whole Rwanda plan is just a calculated vote grab - a headline grabbing sticking plaster that will only house 200 per year

It would be cheaper to buy each of these refugees a house in the UK than pay Rwanda £300-400 million to take 200 refugees a year ... which works our at £300,000-400,000 each

The Rwanda scheme smacks of desperation. The government must be seen to be addressing the issue of immigration. After all it played a big part in the referendum and 'stop the boats' is one of the PM's five pledges.

Greta

The Rwanda scheme smacks of desperation. The government must be seen to be addressing the issue of immigration. After all it played a big part in the referendum and 'stop the boats' is one of the PM's five pledges.

I read or heard that Rwanda was initially part of Johnson’s operation save big dog…

Yes thats right

Hallelujah!

Thank Goodness for the "Old Guard"Long may their observance of the justice system prevail.

Thank you House of Lords 👍

Whether you agree with this particular bill or not, I don't find it a great thing that these unelected peers can hold up or veto anything.

There would be a riot if they tried to get rid if the HOL!! Where else can they walk in, sign their name, walk out and collect £300 every time?

Disgraceful they have not been voted for. Just previous prime ministers cronies

I see that the government has been told that they will be breaking international law if they pursue Rwanda.

HousePlantQueen

The great cheerleader for democracy, Farage, has said that the entire membership of the HoL should be sacked 😀.

I agree with Farage.

TanaMa

There would be a riot if they tried to get rid if the HOL!! Where else can they walk in, sign their name, walk out and collect £300 every time?

Well quite! I would go one day a week to collect more than my pension, have a snooze in the warm and some subsidised food.
In what other country could you invade illegally and be put in a hotel at taxpayers expense, while pensioners on a basic pension and pension credit struggle to keep warm and have to go to food banks.

So what do you all suggest as a deterrent for the migrants ? This isn’t an aggressive comment it’s just this country is broken and we can’t take on anymore until we fix but , we pay billions in foreign aid to countries who are spending money to go into space whilst our country can’t even fix a pothole . We should keep the foreign aid but perhaps give it to the countries that these migrants are coming from. For a small country we also take a lot of legal migrants , for instance many who come over here to study are allowed to bring up to six dependants surely that is not right ? In my area we are just about to house asylum seekers in high end apartments whilst the homeless list is huge and a lot of local people are living in squalid social housing something needs to be done

icanhandthemback

Whether you agree with this particular bill or not, I don't find it a great thing that these unelected peers can hold up or veto anything.

Exactly. I totally agree. They are unelected!! That’s not democracy

sundowngirl

icanhandthemback

Whether you agree with this particular bill or not, I don't find it a great thing that these unelected peers can hold up or veto anything.

Exactly. I totally agree. They are unelected!! That’s not democracy

Whether you think the Lords are democratic or not, they have been the only element in Parliament, since at least 2019, which have had a restraining influence on this government which has been trying hard to take power away from the real Legislative body, which is the House of Commons and the House of Lords. It is NOT the government.

Frankly it matters not a lot - the Rwanda policy will never work. It is a dead duck that simply won’t lay down.

Woop Woop is my first reaction, but let’s not celebrate too soon. Whilst I completely agree migration needs reviewing, small boats need to be stopped (they are dangerous), traffickers need to be stopped, but imo the Rwanda issue penalises people who appear unable to enter via the “correct” channel as every year this govt has made this harder and harder. I object to the Rwanda scheme as (imo) it goes against the “spirit” of asylum and their record in human rights is hardly glowing!

I wonder if the scheme is scuppered totally if Rwanda will refund our money, or like the French, simply laugh all the way to the bank with £££££££M of taxpayers cash!

ruthiek

So what do you all suggest as a deterrent for the migrants ? This isn’t an aggressive comment it’s just this country is broken and we can’t take on anymore until we fix but , we pay billions in foreign aid to countries who are spending money to go into space whilst our country can’t even fix a pothole . We should keep the foreign aid but perhaps give it to the countries that these migrants are coming from. For a small country we also take a lot of legal migrants , for instance many who come over here to study are allowed to bring up to six dependants surely that is not right ? In my area we are just about to house asylum seekers in high end apartments whilst the homeless list is huge and a lot of local people are living in squalid social housing something needs to be done

ASK THE GOVT! They’ve had 14 years to fix this and both legitimately entering and illegally entering migrant number have steadily risen year on year.

Please remember those entering illegally make up less than 1% of our population and are not to blame for every woe this country faces, including homelessness, they are a great diversion for failing local and central government!

Also migrants are not to blame for our poor (compared to other EU countries) state pension!