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Brexit Fallout

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jan-24 07:29:31

The U.K. has been experiencing a severe shortage of drugs recently and medicine for such conditions as type 2 diabetes, cancer, motor neurone disease and such forth are either extremely difficult if not impossible to obtain. The reason being that we have a close neighbour whose buying power is so much greater than ours.

This morning we have news that the EU has decided to “future-proof” by stockpiling drugs as far as it possibly can, which will further snd severely exacerbate the U.K. s position.

In other Brexit news -trade talks with Canada have completely broken down. The U.K. inherited the trade deal when it left the EU, and has since been in talks to try to maintain that deal as is, but given the UKs much lesser economic clout, Canada has refused to play ball and have walked away from the talks. The fallout will mean that cars manufacturers, cheese manufacturers and beef manufacturers amongst other stuff. now face high tariffs if they wish to export to Canada.

Of course we have already noted that extra bureaucracy due to hit our businesses trading with the EU at the end of January will force prices up.

Cossy Wed 31-Jan-24 14:20:44

Both my husband and I have had a few long waits and occurs with some of our meds, mine for diabetes and pain patches, his for heart tablets.

We are not better off away from the EU and I’m still patiently waiting for the oven-ready deals

Delene Wed 31-Jan-24 13:28:11

The ones feeling uncomfortable are those who voted for Brexit. It was a disaster as voters were lied to. Those liars should be made accountable. Travelling for instance, has been affected.

MayBee70 Wed 31-Jan-24 12:42:02

Gisela Stewart on this very forum told us all we’d have cheaper energy bills….

MaizieD Wed 31-Jan-24 11:49:58

Grantanow

Andrea ('I'm a mum') Leadsom told Kate Burley that businesses simply needed to adapt when Kate skewered her about the £330 million of extra costs they will incur as a result of border checks with the EU. Translation: the Tories don't care about small businesses going to the wall.

Yes, that's been all over my twitter timeline this morning. I liked this comment:

To be fair (at least initially) she is saying businesses knew that there would be extra costs.
She's right and they were telling people like Leadsom this all the time, but she and her friends refused to accept it. She and her friends also lied to the public about it constantly.

Pity Burley didn't challenge her on that.

After all, we were were told things like:

"No-one is talking about leaving the Single Market" Hannon

"We'll have a deal like Norway" Farage (clearly oblivious to the fact that he and the rest were campaigning against Free Movement in the guise of unwelcome immigration, when the Norway deal depends on accepting free movement)

Of course, we might have people claiming that the £330million extra costs to business is more than compensated for by that £350 million a week we're spending on the NHS grin 👿

suelld Wed 31-Jan-24 11:37:17

Oreo

Groan, this old record being played again?
My Mum has no probs getting her diabetic type2 meds, I know cos I pick them up for her.
All this years down the line bellyaching has to stop at some point, it’s like some just enjoy being prophets of doom.
I didn’t vote for it but more people did and I accept that.Have to say I haven’t noticed anything changing since then.The pandemic was the worst thing and thank God that’s over.

Bit selfish that…I haven’t noticed a problem…but many of us have …I’m a small specialist self-employed trader and cannot sent to France, Germany or Spain any longer due to ‘packaging restrictions’ , customs taxes, etc, and general red tape to other countries. The stockpiling referred to May have an effect on medications on the near future and trade agreements are almost impossible to get since Brexit.
YOU might not have noticed a difference in your world, I and others certainly have!

She777 Wed 31-Jan-24 11:37:17

The Canada deal has not been abandoned. We failed to agree on chlorinated chicken and beef imports. The deal can still be brokered but I hope without the chicken.

Milest0ne Wed 31-Jan-24 11:31:23

glammagran

Hormone fed beef cattle imported from Canada? No thanks! Apart JRM who I’m sure thinks it’s fine.

Plus Chlorine washed chickens which are not allowed in UK

Plunger Wed 31-Jan-24 11:28:00

Maremia

Democracy means you may vote again. Let's put this whole issue to bed, and see how many folk still agree with Brexit. Simples.

So we simply keep on voting till we the anti Brexiteers get the result they want. Shall we do that at every general election when the minority dislike the result ?

Jess20 Wed 31-Jan-24 11:14:51

Not just medications, can't get anyone in Europe to ship us a new exhaust for our old LHD van!

Grantanow Wed 31-Jan-24 10:56:52

Andrea ('I'm a mum') Leadsom told Kate Burley that businesses simply needed to adapt when Kate skewered her about the £330 million of extra costs they will incur as a result of border checks with the EU. Translation: the Tories don't care about small businesses going to the wall.

Oreo Wed 31-Jan-24 10:36:48

Galaxy

I am not sure that people on University Challenge are representative of anything really, even university students grin

😂

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 31-Jan-24 08:47:55

Or it could mean that if they lower their standards we could lower ours even further. It a little world of wonder people like JRM live in Whitewave hmm

Whitewavemark2 Wed 31-Jan-24 08:27:15

Love this twitter feed by Brian Cox - the physicist

So JRM on GBNews

Jacob Ree-Mogg says we don't need to apply the terms of Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, because food standards in the EU are much higher than they are in the UK.

And by applying them, we turn the UK into a miniature EU.

Brian Cox

This is worth watching for the cognitive dissonance on display. As far as I can tell, the argument is that implementing Brexit in the form of a customs and regulatory border between the U.K. and EU damages Brexit.
Furthermore, the argument continues, we don’t need to implement border controls on food because the EU has higher standards than we do. Therefore, it follows, as long as we maintain lower standards than the EU, we don’t need to implement Brexit.
And furthermore (II) the EU are criticised for having higher standards, which presumably means that they should lower their standards, which would then necessitate the introduction of border checks, which would damage Brexit.

Oh dear😀😀

Galaxy Tue 30-Jan-24 18:20:17

I am not sure that people on University Challenge are representative of anything really, even university students grin

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 18:19:31

Maybe they all misunderstood the question.

varian Tue 30-Jan-24 18:16:51

True. So were they all asleep in 2016?

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 18:15:56

varian

I suppose some students are only eighteen or so and therefore hardly remember the fraudulent referendum of 2016 when they were only about ten.

Many young people seem to take no interest in current affairs, even quite clever young people.

But it still shocks me.

But the Open University team were much older!

Galaxy Tue 30-Jan-24 18:14:32

Actually I am not sure that's true, they consume news in a different way, I think the popularity of the long form podcasts shows that. They just consume current affairs in a different way.

varian Tue 30-Jan-24 18:10:37

I suppose some students are only eighteen or so and therefore hardly remember the fraudulent referendum of 2016 when they were only about ten.

Many young people seem to take no interest in current affairs, even quite clever young people.

But it still shocks me.

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 17:21:01

On University Challenge last night both teams seem to have forgotten that we were no longer in the EU. And one team was the Open University one! I couldn’t believe it.

Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 21:32:25

ronib

Dinahmo it was fine. Having a tooth filled is much worse. Four weeks of eye drops, no bending , no heavy lifting no housework for a week…… such hardship.

Thank you.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 19:20:01

Dinahmo. Allotments, community allotments, grow bags re flat dwellers wanting to grow produce.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 19:14:09

Dinahmo it was fine. Having a tooth filled is much worse. Four weeks of eye drops, no bending , no heavy lifting no housework for a week…… such hardship.

Lovetopaint037 Mon 29-Jan-24 19:07:06

It’s sickening. So much trouble caused by lies, the Daily Mail, Johnson and people who voted for Brexit in the belief that immigration figures would go down and we would have straight bananas.

maddyone Mon 29-Jan-24 18:57:37

The US…………..made it clear that one of the terms of a potential deal was that foodstuffs wouldn’t be labelled as from the USA

That would of course make it very difficult to reject American foods. No wonder we failed to get a trade deal, and I say thank goodness for that. I guess that I, along with others who have travelled, have probably eaten meat produced in this inferior way at some point in our lives, but we can normally avoid it by buying British or European goods when at home, which is most of the time.